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    Toystore's Avatar
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    Level syncing down in a certain expert

    Can we stop with this? 2 out of the 3 experts don't sync you. I get the endgame in ShB was rushed, so it might just be an oversight that they use the same coding from the main story to sync everyone in the party to 440.

    The game is already losing its RPG mechanics. There's almost nowhere to use endgame gear right now, and nothing sucks more than a 1 out of 3 chance the character progression you worked for completely evaporates when you go after your phantasmagoria that day. Because the roulette didn't give you Twinning or Academia.

    It's fine if its within the main story, but if its in the expert roulette it really should be playing by the same rules as the other two in the roulette and no have a special condition to it. It already feels like it doesn't belong and it's just there because the end game is rushed and there aren't enough expert dungeons to begin with.
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    Rica Elak'ha
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    Didn't ARF and Ala Mhigo do the same? It's because they are MSQ dungeons, even if they are in Expert Roulette. Going by the usual formula, it won't be in Expert after 5.1, anyway.
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    Leon Reddas
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    Same thing with Stormblood, Ala Mhigo (an MSQ duty) was part of the Expert roulette because there was no where else it could go until the level 70 Roulette was added (patch 4.1?). Nothing was rushed to endgame so not sure where that idea is coming from....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Same thing with Stormblood, Ala Mhigo (an MSQ duty) was part of the Expert roulette because there was no where else it could go until the level 70 Roulette was added (patch 4.1?). Nothing was rushed to endgame so not sure where that idea is coming from....
    to be fair it is with comparison to SB considering SB end dungeon at least had some armor while ShB is only accs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    to be fair it is with comparison to SB considering SB end dungeon at least had some armor while ShB is only accs
    It's only Accs because you get armour of the same ilvl for free just before.
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    It's only Accs because you get armour of the same ilvl for free just before.
    of course but Sb also gave you armor that was perfectly fine for the duties at the end of SB
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    Interesting about Ala Mhigo doing it too. I don't remember having that issue in SB but it was probably because I didn't raid Deltascape so I never encountered the problem of Ala Mhigo actually becoming more of a nuisance in the DF. I never hit the plateau where the actual experts became easier with savage gear in the first tier of SB.

    I really don't think it's intentional either. Really seems more like an oversight that's never been addressed because it's not that big of a deal. Just kind of wanted to point it out because a lot of these loss of RPG mechanics come at a rate of many minuscule things adding up over long periods of time that gut the sense of character growth. It's not huge to not be able to use your gear at all 1 out of 3 days in expert roulette, but it does add up over time.

    It IS a little peculiar though that the day you get the regular story dungeon is the day you have the hardest time of the three possible dungeons due to scaling and the 440 sync. Unless they put people who queue for the expert in the regular 80 queue for it? I've never seen a first time bonus to know if that's true, I just assumed everyone who was in the expert roulette already had it cleared so there was no need at all for the story 440 sync.
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    Honestly with how aggro works now, the ilv sync in Amaurot is kinda asinine. A lv70 DPS can't keep off of a lv60 tank in my experience; an i470 DPS surely won't challenge an i430 tank.
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
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    It is absolutely fine that the story dungeons are synced down.
    Give the "new" player a challange and let them do mechanics.
    Otherwise they will just see another easy dungeon without penalty or hard mechanics because everything get out damaged and skipped.

    Casuals have it already easy enough.
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    Last edited by Curisu; 09-26-2019 at 07:25 PM.

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    Hyomin Park
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    They sync the final expansion dungeons like this so that they don’t become repeats of Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium: complete and utter facerolls. Aetherochemical Research Facility and Ala Mhigo both have this sync as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    of course but Sb also gave you armor that was perfectly fine for the duties at the end of SB
    Yeah, but then it became more or less useless the minute you got any Veracity tomes, which didn’t take that long. I can see why they removed it.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 09-26-2019 at 10:06 PM.
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