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    guardin's Avatar
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    Shaiden Nightfall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    Honestly sounds like a you problem to me.
    again, stop personally attacking people for having opinions tryin to meme by saying "you problem" have some actually feedback...
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    Ein'sf Florr
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    Quote Originally Posted by svann View Post
    I dont think the moves look feminine at all, but it may look that way when you wear the starting dancer costume.
    In a recent dungeon run I had, there's a Hrothgar dancer wearing Nezha Lord slops and shoes plus southsea talisman. For the first time I thought the dances look really cool on a big lionman.
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    Cynric Zerr
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    idk what your idea of feminine is, but Highlander males look sexy as hell as dancers, including how they look with the animations, and they are some of the manliest men of the bunch.

    This thread seems to be more about personal insecurity rather than actual critiquing of a class. Of course I am also a straight dude who has no problems saying a male character is sexy. I just don't understand why ppl fuss over such silly things.
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    Aerac Longwalker
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    I agree with the original poster, dancer class seems fun but the moves just arent something i can get immersed into, as feminine isnt my style. i was hoping they would have moves more similar to say Capoeira. I hate that everyone celebrates when a man wants to act feminine but not when they want to act masculine.
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurricanes View Post
    I hate that everyone celebrates when a man wants to act feminine but not when they want to act masculine.
    That's because of the stigma that is plaguing our societies. Women are encouraged and allowed to be both feminine and masculine, but if a man goes too far in one direction or the other they are either viewed as weak or arrogant. Most societies are trying to focus on how to broaden a child's scope of being, but that usually only applies to girls. Basically, we feel more comfortable raising girls as we would boys, but not boys as girls. And sadly, not to get into any specifics, we wont reach any definitive results until we focus a bit more on the male half of inequality, but being as male-centric as we are, that wont happen anytime soon, because, men don't have problems, pfft, are you crazy.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    That's because of the stigma that is plaguing our societies. Women are encouraged and allowed to be both feminine and masculine, but if a man goes too far in one direction or the other they are either viewed as weak or arrogant. Most societies are trying to focus on how to broaden a child's scope of being, but that usually only applies to girls. Basically, we feel more comfortable raising girls as we would boys, but not boys as girls. And sadly, not to get into any specifics, we wont reach any definitive results until we focus a bit more on the male half of inequality, but being as male-centric as we are, that wont happen anytime soon, because, men don't have problems, pfft, are you crazy.
    this is the most well thought out and well educated written/non biased response from the forums. Thank you for being the rational and logical one of the internal. but i expect no less from a lalafell
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    Nalol Inta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldtagg View Post
    I used to dance a lot of streetdance and breakdance when I was a teenager
    it's eaorzean dance, not breakdance.


    also I guess they wanted it to be swift and gracefull ...
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    Pilotus Astero
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    see this is why dancers cant have nice things.
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    Honestly, I don’t even pay attention to animations half the time I’m in battle. Usually more focused what’s going on than myself. Though from what I seen they aren’t that feminine. The only job that comes close to that would probably be ast, at least in my opinion.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Considering the extreme overabundance of '' masculine dude bros '' in games, I think that you can deal with something a bit more feminine...

    This is sorta like complaining that a characters boobs are '' too big '' in a game with a crap ton of characters to me.
    Not every character or whatever needs to adhere to what you want, just play something else.
    I dunno tho, I just find these complaints very irritating personally.
    Because I don't sit around complaining just because something doesn't adhere to what I want.
    I do complain when what I like is taken away and changed to pander to others, but I think that's totally different ( and because I never demand that it's done for my sake either ).

    A lot of Japanese games like these are sort of an escape from that to me too, because the Western industry is so completey infested with masculinity imo.
    To the point that it often feels as if femininity is demonized in the West, even by so called '' progressive '' studios and publishers.
    Not saying that masculinity is bad, I am a pretty masculine guy irl and probably the furthest away from what people would expect when they see my characters and what I like in games.
    But it gets very tiresome when everything is so dark and '' gruff '' in the West, and then people still complain when there's exceptions to it that it's '' not masculine enough ''.

    Dancer didn't appeal to me gameplay-wise, I thought that I'd love it but I didn't.
    But aesthetically and animation-wise they're amazing imo, and I wouldn't want to see them be changed just because someone wants yet another masculine character number 999999999999999999999.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 10-09-2019 at 01:36 PM.

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