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  1. #61
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    Considering the extreme overabundance of '' masculine dude bros '' in games, I think that you can deal with something a bit more feminine...

    This is sorta like complaining that a characters boobs are '' too big '' in a game with a crap ton of characters to me.
    Not every character or whatever needs to adhere to what you want, just play something else.
    I dunno tho, I just find these complaints very irritating personally.
    Because I don't sit around complaining just because something doesn't adhere to what I want.
    I do complain when what I like is taken away and changed to pander to others, but I think that's totally different ( and because I never demand that it's done for my sake either ).

    A lot of Japanese games like these are sort of an escape from that to me too, because the Western industry is so completey infested with masculinity imo.
    To the point that it often feels as if femininity is demonized in the West, even by so called '' progressive '' studios and publishers.
    Not saying that masculinity is bad, I am a pretty masculine guy irl and probably the furthest away from what people would expect when they see my characters and what I like in games.
    But it gets very tiresome when everything is so dark and '' gruff '' in the West, and then people still complain when there's exceptions to it that it's '' not masculine enough ''.

    Dancer didn't appeal to me gameplay-wise, I thought that I'd love it but I didn't.
    But aesthetically and animation-wise they're amazing imo, and I wouldn't want to see them be changed just because someone wants yet another masculine character number 999999999999999999999.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 10-09-2019 at 01:36 PM.

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    I play a Hrothgar and I dig the animations. The only one I don't like is the running one, which I'd say seems... kindy dainty? It looks like he's barely holding onto the chakram between the tips of his fingers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1551NGN0 View Post
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    stop being so rude dude. lol so closed minded added nothing to the post and literally derailed the topic. I agree op but it doesnt bother me as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leareaux View Post
    And blue is for boys and pink is for girls, right?

    Nah dude, they're just colors.

    Seeing as SE made the animations for this 'warrior dancer' job, it's a hard arguement to say 'it should be more this and less that.'

    If you stuck to your 'heavy' and 'soft' attributes I'd simply write it off as your take. But it's 2019. The way you move or what weapon you hold doesnt make you any more or less masculine.
    this argument is so weak. He just wants something more aerobatic. like flying kicks and flipping off enemies or break dancing. Add something epic mixed in with the "graceful" moves. Right now it is feminine 2019 or not its true. blue is for boys and pink is for girls-always will be that stereotype regardless if you chose to break it and you are free to do so. Yes is takes skills to be a male feminine dancer but that is fine. this white knight stuff has to stop and you gotta stop attacking people that have a different opinion . we all can read the underlying message of your hate attack against op. not cool dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Considering the extreme overabundance of '' masculine dude bros '' in games, I think that you can deal with something a bit more feminine...

    This is sorta like complaining that a characters boobs are '' too big '' in a game with a crap ton of characters to me.
    Not every character or whatever needs to adhere to what you want, just play something else.
    I dunno tho, I just find these complaints very irritating personally.
    Because I don't sit around complaining just because something doesn't adhere to what I want.
    I do complain when what I like is taken away and changed to pander to others, but I think that's totally different ( and because I never demand that it's done for my sake either ).

    A lot of Japanese games like these are sort of an escape from that to me too, because the Western industry is so completey infested with masculinity imo.
    To the point that it often feels as if femininity is demonized in the West, even by so called '' progressive '' studios and publishers.
    Not saying that masculinity is bad, I am a pretty masculine guy irl and probably the furthest away from what people would expect when they see my characters and what I like in games.
    But it gets very tiresome when everything is so dark and '' gruff '' in the West, and then people still complain when there's exceptions to it that it's '' not masculine enough ''.

    Dancer didn't appeal to me gameplay-wise, I thought that I'd love it but I didn't.
    But aesthetically and animation-wise they're amazing imo, and I wouldn't want to see them be changed just because someone wants yet another masculine character number 999999999999999999999.
    this is FARRRR from true. games are now far more feminist than masculine as most people play girls and guys are scarce. i think you need to get off your high horse and respect that men have rights too. There's nothing wrong with wanting more masculinity in game when 90% of the game focuses on feminist aspects
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    Honestly sounds like a you problem to me.
    again, stop personally attacking people for having opinions tryin to meme by saying "you problem" have some actually feedback...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    That's because of the stigma that is plaguing our societies. Women are encouraged and allowed to be both feminine and masculine, but if a man goes too far in one direction or the other they are either viewed as weak or arrogant. Most societies are trying to focus on how to broaden a child's scope of being, but that usually only applies to girls. Basically, we feel more comfortable raising girls as we would boys, but not boys as girls. And sadly, not to get into any specifics, we wont reach any definitive results until we focus a bit more on the male half of inequality, but being as male-centric as we are, that wont happen anytime soon, because, men don't have problems, pfft, are you crazy.
    this is the most well thought out and well educated written/non biased response from the forums. Thank you for being the rational and logical one of the internal. but i expect no less from a lalafell
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    this is FARRRR from true. games are now far more feminist than masculine as most people play girls and guys are scarce. i think you need to get off your high horse and respect that men have rights too. There's nothing wrong with wanting more masculinity in game when 90% of the game focuses on feminist aspects
    Highlander, Roe, Catboy, Male Au'ra, Hrothgar.

    Dark Knight, Warrior, Monk, Samurai, Dragoon.

    Those that incorporate both:

    Machinist, Paladin, Gunbreaker, Scholar, Summoner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    this is FARRRR from true. games are now far more feminist than masculine as most people play girls and guys are scarce. i think you need to get off your high horse and respect that men have rights too. There's nothing wrong with wanting more masculinity in game when 90% of the game focuses on feminist aspects
    This was physically painful to read. 0/10 not enough water.
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    Well the community have been asking for this in a somewhat way via lgbt type of thing. It'll be fine, dancer supposed to be "flexible" in their actions. It still needs a buff though in their DPS.
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