Preformed group actively targeting people queuing on Frontline roulette

[Duskane]

id join a premade if i could
really want the field commander coat be nice to work with a group for it

on topic sure i can see premades as " annoying " but its also apart of the game you
quite literally "you win some you lose some" its not a big deal

Yea i play with him, great group.

I think it has alot to do with the garo event ending soon, hopefully when 5.1 comes around it's just people who enjoy PVP queueing.

moogle event has pvp too so bet there will be loads queing for it then

[Tanama]

But yeah if anyone on primal dc is interested I run my premade at 8 am pst right at reset just let me know if you want to join :3 @Naughty Nurse @Leviathan

Thanks for extending an olive branch. I'll seek you once I log in.

[heyitsjowey]

Thanks for extending an olive branch. I'll seek you once I log in.

ofc :3 anytime <3

[rustybucket]

Guess what, I roll in a premade too.

It's fun to play with friends, but the dude who posted this is almost correct and I can kind of see where he is coming from. Premades will farm you if they are idiots and are on a power high, theres no doubt about that. I know. I have been farmed.

You get premades who will do the objectives, or you will get premades that will just farm you to the ground for the fun of it. Sadly, the latter is more common, at least on Light data centre.

I don't know why it bothers you though, cause even premades get steamrolled sometimes. Find some friends and roll with them like I did. PvP is boring on your own and I have had countless laughs with the friends I have made rolling with them. Some people deffo take it to personal though thats for sure. Dont let it bother you, I don't.

[Praesul]

Winning by farming people through kills is a valid strategy on most of the Frontline maps, I'm not even sure why it's controversial. There's a reason you gain points per kill and lose points per death.

[TheLisp]

id join a premade if i could
really want the field commander coat be nice to work with a group for it

on topic sure i can see premades as " annoying " but its also apart of the game you
quite literally "you win some you lose some" its not a big deal

Literally the same reason i joined, got stomped by them a few times first tho.

moogle event has pvp too so bet there will be loads queing for it then

yea thats true

[Tanama]

I want to retract what I said about said group actively targeting frontline roulette queue-ers. I admit that was an incredibly impulsive reaction to me being beaten by them for the past few weeks.

To the person that said something about having no competitive spirit and just expecting free wins with no work, that is not the case at all. I busted my ass and farmed all of the Garo mounts and titles and ended up enjoying PvP more than I thought I would. I have also been trying to get better and learning how each job plays in PvP. I have a basic grasp on a lot of jobs now but I have a lot more to learn.

[Murph]

Play a tank, run at the enemy healer every time you see them, keep doing this until people follow you.

[Shinklet]

If you are having trouble with premades, what I suggest is that you form a rival community yourself. Simply advertise here, in pvpaissa and duty finder and just gather a small group of people willing to get good with one another.

[KageTokage]

Winning by farming people through kills is a valid strategy on most of the Frontline maps, I'm not even sure why it's controversial. There's a reason you gain points per kill and lose points per death.

It's a valid strategy, but not something I particularly agree with when it tends to come at the near complete inability of one of the teams to escape their spawn point or do much of anything at all unless the team not being farmed decides to come help them. The sheer amount of points you lose from being farmed by players with battle high also practically ensures that you're going to come in dead last.

The only actual downside of the tactic is that if you're not killing fast enough the team you aren't paying attention to might still pull ahead from objectives, though simply knowing when to stop farming kills and start monopolizing objectives with battle high fixes that.

Kills should give points, but not to the extent where you can get away with ignoring objectives almost completely-. I think weighing objectives more heavily would make things better overall by both making games end faster and reducing the practicality of kill farming (I mostly see it happen in Seize). The teams that kill better/more efficiently will still win in the end; they just won't do it at the expense of another team's ability to even play/have fun by camping their spawn area.

As an example from WoW, killing players in one of the two PvP modes that score kills at all is worth only one measly point while objectives are worth hundreds or can just win a match outright should a team actually manage to pull it off (Doing so is akin to breaking the opposing team's core in Rival Wings in terms of how much of an effort it takes but still generally the preferred strategy). They're generally treated more like icing on the cake and/or a tie-breaking factor then something you should be regularly winning from and I felt like it made for more interesting games overall.