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    Player
    Samsta's Avatar
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    Amael Yuki
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 80

    Why are abyssal drain and salted earth so weak?

    I started leveling drk again since I want all jobs to 80, and it feels... gutted, but what mostly stood out to me was how weak the abyssal drain and salted earth were. salted earth stands on 90 second cd, with a cd like that it should be a powerful ability, but it's a 300 potency dot aoe, nothing else, I don't really understand how it deserves such a long cd. It should either be more powerful, or have some other effect tacked to it, like mp or blood restoration. Same with abyssal drain, it at least has 60 sec cd, but has a pitiful 200 potency, what is this? And a 200 potency heal? Why even bother? Would it really break the game for it to actually have a useful heal?

    Now, I figured this probably has something to do with them being aoe, so buffing them would put drk on top of aoe damage in dungeons, but really, that's fine, tanks shouldn't be balanced around dungeon aoe damage anyway, gunbreaker is ahead of it in damage on dungeons, buffing those 2 cooldowns would probably put in on par with gunberaker, that's ok.

    Dark Knight already has the lowest damage with warrior depending on the fight, I think it's completely reasonable to make those 2 abilities worthwhile, why not tie them to mp and make managing mp actually meaningful? Buff them up, lower their cd and make them cost mana, and make them not refresh darkside, I don't even understand why it's in the game anymore right now, it just automaintains itself.
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 85
    They are preparing them for removal next expansion.
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    Noitems Ever
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    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhais View Post
    They are preparing them for removal next expansion.
    "We've decided to replace Abyssal Drain with this new self healing move instead to better support DRK's survival"
    "Oh so you mean Equilibrium?"
    "Yes"
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    AB really should have been a 30 second with Charge CD

    And Salted earth either becomes stronger, a defensive utility like healer bubbles or removed and replace with Scourge
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    you're not wrong that DRK feels gutted.
    Quietus used to give MP after a hotfix in early stormblood. There used to be a trait for Salted that generated blood per server tic. Abyssal used to be the bread and butter dungeon GCD.

    SE doesn't know how to make tanks. SE really doesn't know how to make DRK.
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    A'syree Sato
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    AB really should have been a 30 second with Charge CD

    And Salted earth either becomes stronger, a defensive utility like healer bubbles or removed and replace with Scourge
    Abyssal Drain should never have been given a cool down. I can’t think of one person who ever wanted to have a timer attached to that skill.
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    A'syree Sato
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhais View Post
    They are preparing them for removal next expansion.
    It saddens me how blatant it is too.
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Salted Earth was justified in being weak back when it gave you a bit of Blood Gauge per tick. On a bunch of mobs in a trash pull, it was extremely powerful.
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Oh hey another "Fix Dark Knight" thread, basically... Not like we have like 3 or 5 pages of those already...
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    Last edited by DRKoftheAzure; 09-25-2019 at 01:28 AM.

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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    Oh hey another "Fix Dark Knight" thread, basically... Not like we have like 3 or 5 pages of those already...
    WOW it's ALMOST as if there HAVE BEEN several glaring issues for WAY TOO LONG NOW and unless people keep speaking up about them NOTHING will change? Who knew?
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