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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    Or perhaps you're putting words and ideals of what you would do, onto me? I've stated to simply ask if anyone had anything similar happen, if they know or feel something did, they will speak up, otherwise, what is you point?
    This is a direct response to you question: no. GM under SE policy is known for being good at their job. You did something disruptive and you get punished. End of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    This is a direct response to you question: no. GM under SE policy is known for being good at their job. You did something disruptive and you get punished. End of the story.
    You didn't even read the discussion, I'm going to assume the first post as well. That question you quoted wasn't even too you, but to the woman who keeps repeating herself even though I've let them know it's just to see how many people feel they have had similar happenings. If you could please read not just jump in and play the "You did something wrong Ooooh!" Card like a child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    GM under SE policy is known for being good at their job.
    That made me laugh way more than it should. We have pretty good comedians here. Good job.

    @OP

    however I get the feeling the GMs in this game are really lopsided and don't actually work with the players to find out both sides, instead just slapping people with warning when reported over something that could have easily been worked out, had both sides been seen
    They see both sides before they take actions, they don't care about your words post report, they care about the chat log evidence, nothing you say will change their evidence.

    [...] and how the reporting party was also harassing me.
    You don't know if they already know that, although there's very low chance the reporter would get in trouble. Whoever reports first tends to be immune.

    I'm not really complaining, however I just wanted to know if anyone else feels the same with the system they have in place at the moment, if you've had someone really rude upset you then report you and get slapped with a warning without hearing your side?
    If you want numbers, here's your number: every single person who was pulled into GM jail as part of a player conflict was slapped with a warning/ban without hearing their side, because that's how their policy works.
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    So this became about a homework assignment after the OP got pushback?
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    Referring to someone as snarky is rude? Even given the context of the comment I cannot see how that is rude. I get how someone may view it as a means of facilitating a response from the person, but rude? That is a leap imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    So this became about a homework assignment after the OP got pushback?
    Yes, because he didn't mention this until later.

    Which has been said, time and time again.
    They have the logs. It isn't the matter of "He said / She said" because they can see what all was said.
    They don't care why you said it, they did what they should and warned you for it.
    I highly doubt this is a some sort of homework assignment of getting warnings off a video game when it's justified.
    The proof is in the pudding, and in this case, the chat box of the game.
    Not sure why there needs to be some "People who got warned only!" gathering here about it.
    Really isn't that big of a deal.
    Just stop being toxic in the game lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    You didn't even read the discussion, I'm going to assume the first post as well. That question you quoted wasn't even too you, but to the woman who keeps repeating herself even though I've let them know it's just to see how many people feel they have had similar happenings. If you could please read not just jump in and play the "You did something wrong Ooooh!" Card like a child.
    What a laughable argument, no wonder you do not why you are being reported. I have been reading this discussion and all I see is you are digging your own grave
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    This is my biggest issue with this generation is these keyboard warriors have no back bone. Back in the old days of social gaming players would trash talk each other for days and no one went to a GM. Now these cowards will harass someone until they fight back then go crying victim to a GM. If your going to trash someone you should beam enough to take it to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    So I got pulled into GM prison today, for the first time since the release of this game, I've usually never been one to lash out at others, so I know exactly why I was pulled in, however I get the feeling the GMs in this game are really lopsided and don't actually work with the players to find out both sides, instead just slapping people with warning when reported over something that could have easily been worked out, had both sides been seen. I even asked to actually speak with someone to point out my side and was told no, and given no actual details as to what was fully against the ToS regarding the wording I used, and how the reporting party was also harassing me.
    I'm not really complaining, however I just wanted to know if anyone else feels the same with the system they have in place at the moment, if you've had someone really rude upset you then report you and get slapped with a warning without hearing your side?

    I just find it odd that in a game you pay for a sub, I feel like I've seen better GM management and handling in free to play games.

    (This is specifically just to get numbers for a classwork assignment, and this happening peaked my interest to use if for just that. I'm editing this in because too many people want to come in with a holier than thou attitude, when I'm simply trying to gather data, I know if I got a warning I deserved it and know exactly what I did as I stated. Feel free to keep posting and repeating the same thing if you wish, just putting this here for people who wish to comment without fully reading through.)
    This is when you turn around and slap the other person w/ harassment claim also. (It feels to me based off what Ive seen, that whoever reports someone, seems to get the GMs side and be immune from the consequences of whatever altercation took place). So if you feel you were being harassed, no matter how small, just report them move on. Let the Gm handle it and protect yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    Or perhaps you're putting words and ideals of what you would do, onto me? I've stated to simply ask if anyone had anything similar happen, if they know or feel something did, they will speak up, otherwise, what is you point?
    My point is that you can’t simply sweep the entirety of your post (including the very question in the topic itself itself) by refering to one single line at the very bottom of a several paragrafs long OP where you specifically ask of the opinions of people who specifically are in your situation. First of all, I am in no way adding my own ideals (whatever you mean in this context) upon your actions.

    The topic is literally ”Lopsided reports?” and I and several people pointed out How your story does not in anyway form a conclusive point at this, no matter How many people who would chime in as GMs in those cases as well would have to keep relevant details hidden due to the rules, not because we don’t trust your story nor because we would think your story is less worth because you got a warning (everyone have a bad day, that just from the story to judge seemed to be yours and someone literally pushed you, I get that). For all you know it maybe even wasn’t the person you had a heated discussion with who reported you But someone else in the party in case you were in a dungeon, who also reported them (this is ofc not true if it was in whisper, But even then you would not know what punishment they recieved) for all you would know in this case you might actually have come off the hook easy due to the circumstances as a warning from a GM is by no means a serious punishment, it is literally them telling you that you do not do things like this and if they see it happen again they might have to take action.

    But whenever anyone points out that this very thing is shaky as a ground to form a good opinion on the actual question in the title of the topic you dismiss is as off topic and people attacking you and not having anything relevant to add. However, this part is actually vital to the very question you ask in the title itself. The very fact that you claim that you do not care if they got a warning or not is irrelevant here as it is EXTREMELY relevant when talking about whenever or not the rules are lopsided ö.

    It sounds more and more like that the topic you really want to discuss is if people think that GMs communicion is lacking when giving out warnings and what experience others have had with their communication, But that is not the title of this topic.

    I know this might sound like a huge technicality, But when you accuse people of going off topic and not answering your questions and discussing the topic at hand when we literally discuss the topic in the title, this is a very important technicality to point out.
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