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    Sunoske's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuro_Mao View Post
    usually never gets punished.
    As it was stated this is very untrue, the GMs usually do see both sides, and punishment is given to anyone who managed to do something in the logs (Obviously nothing the can do if its not in the logs) I'm just trying to gather some information in it personally. It's a sucky scenario it really is, but most of us are adults, it just perked my curiosity is all. Being the man I am I like to look into things and rack up numbers.. ;w; it's a weird... curiosity I guess.
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    What do you mean by "hearing your side" ?
    If you did or said something that is against the TOS, then you broke the rules and you can get warned or punished for that.
    It does not really matter if you got provoked or not, you are still held responsible for what you do or say.

    As for how common your experience is, I can't say for sure since I am not a GM, nor have I ever been warned by a GM. Judging from second-hand reports here on the forums, I think the way you got treated is pretty much standard procedure when GMs get involved - they can see in the logs what was actually said so there is no need for them to hear anyones side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    What do you mean by "hearing your side" ?
    If you did or said something that is against the TOS, then you broke the rules and you can get warned or punished for that.
    It does not really matter if you got provoked or not, you are still held responsible for what you do or say.

    As for how common your experience is, I can't say for sure since I am not a GM, nor have I ever been warned by a GM. Judging from second-hand reports here on the forums, I think the way you got treated is pretty much standard procedure when GMs get involved - they can see in the logs what was actually said so there is no need for them to hear anyones side.
    I know, I'm glad you decided to put your input in, however the question was kind of pointed to people who have had something similar happen in order to just grab some simple numbers for an assignment as previously stated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    snip
    I might have missread you, felt like you did not understand the GM decision for your warning.

    GMs just apply the ToS, they are not judges, they just apply penalties according to their policy. They are also not allowed to disclose anything about what led them to this decision, and can just give you a vague reason.
    I don't really understand what kind of numbers you want. In that case I'd say more than 99% of warnings and bans issued are due to ToS break and that's pretty much the end of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    As it was stated this is very untrue, the GMs usually do see both sides, and punishment is given to anyone who managed to do something in the logs (Obviously nothing the can do if its not in the logs) I'm just trying to gather some information in it personally. It's a sucky scenario it really is, but most of us are adults, it just perked my curiosity is all. Being the man I am I like to look into things and rack up numbers.. ;w; it's a weird... curiosity I guess.
    Its not just logs ... SE can deceide what they want to accept as prove and it can be anything.

    We had a thief who stole from fc bank (blabla you allowed it, im sure you still know what i mean) he stood on the yard linking all items they took ... we called it out on twitter and got an official warning for out twitter account.

    Dont be fooled into thinking only in game matters, if someone is pissy and you have mods in the pics you post SE can come for you ... and to my knowledge the thief who disrupted the peace of the FC by being a dick on the yard linking the stuff they got ... didnt get a warning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    As it was stated this is very untrue, the GMs usually do see both sides, and punishment is given to anyone who managed to do something in the logs (Obviously nothing the can do if its not in the logs) I'm just trying to gather some information in it personally. It's a sucky scenario it really is, but most of us are adults, it just perked my curiosity is all. Being the man I am I like to look into things and rack up numbers.. ;w; it's a weird... curiosity I guess.
    Wouldn't be surprised if all you got here was just more people spouting opinions and being preachy. Hopefully that crowd quiets down and you get some actual posts that help in sating your curiosity. I'll keep this one in mind for if it ever happens to me. Haven't been pulled into the gaol yet for the ol' pow wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaitoAsaha View Post
    Wouldn't be surprised if all you got here was just more people spouting opinions and being preachy. Hopefully that crowd quiets down and you get some actual posts that help in sating your curiosity. I'll keep this one in mind for if it ever happens to me. Haven't been pulled into the gaol yet for the ol' pow wow.
    Hopefully it doesnt happen xd Nearly gave me a heart attack! xD But thank you :> Here's hoping!
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    For what real purpose?
    It just seems like you want people to side with you
    and you not feel like you're in the boat alone and
    to see if the others got punished and felt unfair or something.

    Maybe they did or didn't get punished and the GM couldn't tell you anymore about it
    and neither can we. Next time don't be calling people mean names
    and you wouldn't have to start this investigation...then again,
    I want to know too so I know who to avoid in this game lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    For what real purpose?
    It just seems like you want people to side with you
    Who hurt you. I'm not asking for sides, I'm asking if its happened to anyone else. If I told you it helped with a subject for my homework would that make you happy? I legit just used that for a reason earlier. xD Even if not, as I said it did perk my curiosity on the subject, just because I want to know something... everyone jumps to conclusions, its a bit silly.
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    Last edited by Sunoske; 09-21-2019 at 11:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunoske View Post
    Who hurt you. I'm not asking for sides, I'm asking if its happened to anyone else. If I told you it helped with a subject for my homework would that make you happy? I legit just used that for a reason earlier. xD Even if not, as I said it did perk my curiosity on the subject, just because I want to know something... everyone jumps to conclusions, its a bit silly.
    Sometimes, dont bother. I made a thread about reports one time as well and no one got the point. It's all pointing fingers, if anything. Maybe if you omitted being in jail from the OP people could untwist their panties and see the intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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