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    You know what? Now I might just be talking out of my ass here, but since its an ingame item the reward does NOT leave the servers which are in JAPAN thus are bound to THEIR laws and not subject to quebec's.

    I'm from argentina btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    You know what? Now I might just be talking out of my ass here, but since its an ingame item the reward does NOT leave the servers which are in JAPAN thus are bound to THEIR laws and not subject to quebec's.

    I'm from argentina btw.
    Well, you replied with a *stare* to my post about Quebec, I thought you were distressed about Quebec being excluded. The "item" doesn't leave Japan, but the laws about international contests are based on the country of residence of the contestant. It doesn't matter where you or the prize physically are, it depends on your residency.

    Because there is a "prize" associated with this contest (beyond getting your entry named the winner), they cannot opt everyone in automatically, they must be opted in country by country after considering the laws and restrictions of international contests for each individually.

    I hope they do something for your region, but until then know that an international contest really is a huge legal undertaking. There are even different laws for residents within the same country sometimes! (See Vermont and Quebec)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirika View Post
    Well, you replied with a *stare* to my post about Quebec, I thought you were distressed about Quebec being excluded. The "item" doesn't leave Japan, but the laws about international contests are based on the country of residence of the contestant. It doesn't matter where you or the prize physically are, it depends on your residency.

    Because there is a "prize" associated with this contest (beyond getting your entry named the winner), they cannot opt everyone in automatically, they must be opted in country by country after considering the laws and restrictions of international contests for each individually.

    I hope they do something for your region, but until then know that an international contest really is a huge legal undertaking. There are even different laws for residents within the same country sometimes! (See Vermont and Quebec)
    ^This right here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamAlch View Post
    ^This right here.

    how is this any different from a seasonable event or a dalamud event?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    how is this any different from a seasonable event or a dalamud event?
    That was an event, this is a contest. There's the difference. In the events everyone is able to get an item, in this contest only some people will win an item.

    Be that as it may, as someone else in this thread stated, everyone should get an equal chance to participate. All or none at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuinn View Post
    That was an event, this is a contest. There's the difference. In the events everyone is able to get an item, in this contest only some people will win an item.

    Be that as it may, as someone else in this thread stated, everyone should get an equal chance to participate. All or none at all.

    So you would deny other people participation because the hosts of the contest are not allowed for one reason or another to hold the contest in other places? They may only be allowed to host this contest in NA/Canada because of their position, availability, or other terms that we don't know about. That doesn't seem fair to deny people they can give the contest to just because they can't host the contest elsewhere either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    So you would deny other people participation because the hosts of the contest are not allowed for one reason or another to hold the contest in other places? They may only be allowed to host this contest in NA/Canada because of their position, availability, or other terms that we don't know about. That doesn't seem fair to deny people they can give the contest to just because they can't host the contest elsewhere either.
    No matter the triviality of the item in question, it's the principle.

    It's not fair to deny them? Just like it's fair every time some of these contests are up that others have to sit and watch other people participate. Why would someone have to feel handicapped just cause of the region they made their account in (doesn't even have to be born there). . . . all while they are bound by the same moral and financial rules towards SE.

    It's all rules and regulations of individual country laws, and it's all fine, but as I said, if SE thinks that it's not going to cause discomfort to some portion of they playerbase then they really have no clear concept of the online community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    how is this any different from a seasonable event or a dalamud event?
    I think the legal difference is that a contest has winners chosen by judges who represent the sponsor, rather than being a game mechanic where everyone has an opportunity to earn the item or a game mechanic where a random number generator chooses a winner. Many of these contest laws are put in place to prevent corruption, such as judges awarding prizes to friends and family or excluding a group of persons due to prejudice.
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