MSQ as a new player

[Renato]

I can understand shortening the ARR quests...I've personally seen people I've introduced to the game quit or lose interest before it even gets good due to the pacing. I've heard that they'll be shortening it at some point in 5.1.

But this...

2nd: Please remove Partyfinder quests, give us bots who can help with those quests or change those quests to solo quests, lower the bosses HP and dps etc. I know it's an MMORPG, but I don't want to depend on other players for the MSQ. Endgame has enough stuff to do with other players.

You're playing the wrong game if you feel this way. It's an MMO...you can pretty much expect to play with others. Waiting until the "endgame" to do multiplayer content would be a terrible idea.

[ChaoticCrimson]

I do hope that the streamlining of the post-ARR MSQ does a good job of highlighting the good parts of that story section. Because there is a lot of interesting stuff that happens and a lot of important setup for future expansions, but so much of it is spaced out with all the boring fetch quests and other irrelevant filler that it takes away from all that significantly.

[MsQi]

This is such a wonderful post. Becuase of the garbage gate system that lore purists defend. You can't do any class quests, because oh wait they are locked behind a msq. A person hits 50 and get garbage xp because those quests have garbage xp, unless they boosted them. But I recently did some lvl 50 quests I missed, xp was bad and did not scale at all.


Then the comment just pay to skip it. I just want to scream. It has almost been half a decade since we have known it was bad. So new people should just pay to skip it. Don't people feel ashamed even suggesting that.



The one good suggestion is tank or healer que. The other option which doesn't seem suggested much. If you just want to clear it and xp isn't that great anyways. Get a level 80 friend from FC to just speed run it unsynced. Unless it has a mechanic that requires multiple players. All that stuff just takes a few minutes.

I'm not sure what you are implying about me, but if I had my way they would make the MSQ optional rather than change it. There are a few kill quests and some "back and forthing" they could adjust or make separate. But this is Final Fantasy, if you don't like endless text boxes and cutscenes you're a "casual" . Raids and harder content are mostly side quests, they fill out the lore and the universe and it beats dodging 200 lightning bolts, but they are often not the main story.

[Moonlite]

I'm not sure what you are implying about me, but if I had my way they would make the MSQ optional rather than change it. There are a few kill quests and some "back and forthing" they could adjust or make separate. But this is Final Fantasy, if you don't like endless text boxes and cutscenes you're a "casual" . Raids and harder content are mostly side quests, they fill out the lore and the universe and it beats dodging 200 lightning bolts, but they are often not the main story.

Sorry I interpreted the original response as "you should be basking in the glow of the MSQ it is xp and oh such fine writing how could you not be enjoying this" slightly embellished to illustrate how it came across. Ignoring the fact that it scales horribly and locks you out of other aspects of leveling.



I have seen a few people, not you though. Say that almost none of those quests can be cut because some npc mentions one tiny thing that ties into some quest you will do weeks from now and who really remembers or cares. Or people who say just give SE more money. Or people who claim that gating MSQ has solved botting going forward. Or that its a FF game and it has lots of text. I am sure somewhere someone on the internet has counted, but it feels like I have trudged through at least 3 FF games worth of text. Maybe I am wrong and the rabid lore fan base just makes every mundane filler quest that mentions some tiny thing feel like ten.

[Hasrat]

If you're not a native English speaker on an EU server, you may also want to check your Duty Finder settings to be sure you have multiple languages ticked. Your long wait times may be due to the difficulty of finding enough players with your preferred language to group together.

[Enla]

If you're not a native English speaker on an EU server, you may also want to check your Duty Finder settings to be sure you have multiple languages ticked. Your long wait times may be due to the difficulty of finding enough players with your preferred language to group together.

This, even if you are it's just a good idea to have all the language settings ticked to maximize your chances of getting into a group. That's what the translated text options are for.

[Krojack]

I recall them saying they are aiming for patch 5.3 to release the streamlined MSQ from 2.1 up to 3.0. They said they are already working on it now.

[Jennah]

About the one-hour queues:
Is there any chance these were for the Extreme Primals? (Probably a re-match against Garuda, Ramuh, or the Ultima Weapon?)
If so - one-hour is actually pretty short for those. The quests are optional (and far, FAR more difficult than anything you're required to do); most people wait until max level and do them unsynced, solo or in a small group.
(And if you found the quest for the Coils of Bahamut - that one won't fill. Ever.)

[RokkuEkkusu]

I'd wager they'd streamline the 2.1-2.55 quests to be half as long, but keep the requirement to beat Qarn (normal), Ifrit (Hard), Garuda (Hard), Titan (Hard), and the rest of the story Hard mode primals for newer players and alts.

[AnimaAnimus]

Funny thing is before ARR's original launch, when we were still in the early access stage and I was tearing through content fast since I had a bunch of 50s already from v1, I made the comment on here that they should streamline the msq because it was simply too long and there were too many garbage fetch quests (think I pointed out the titan storyline specifically) and I was torn apart by the masses. I don't think I had ever been comment bombed, screamed at or ragged on like that ever on a forum. It was a level of bad online behavior that would make trump blush.

But nowadays...