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    Pokelong's Avatar
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    Poke Mon
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    Twintania
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    Archer Lv 90

    MSQ as a new player

    Hi, I'm a relatively new player, started this game about a month ago. Now I'm at lvl 66 with my bard.

    So I wanted to share my experience and make a few suggestions for the MSQ.

    I really enjoy the story and I really want to play through the story with other characters and classes again, but there are two things, which stop me from playing the story again.

    Problems:
    1st: The MSQ between the classic FF14 and Heavensward... I think it's called the seventh astral era quests. This was a real pain, it's absolutely too long without any progression for my character. I almost quitted this game because of it, cause I didn't know when I will start progressing again. And the story in that part is boring as well. So I fear that maybe other new players quit here as well, which isn't healthy for the population for this game.

    2nd: Dungeons and bosses with partyfinder.... damn, some queues till finding a group are taking up to 1 hour! Sometimes I don't have so much time gaming, and waiting 1 hour to get 1 quest done is a disaster. I don't want to get through this waiting time again. Everytime a quest with partyfinder pop up, I get the feeling of "oh no, please not again". Maybe you know what I mean.

    Suggestions:
    1st: Remove the MSQ between classic FF14 and Heavensward or shortened it somehow.

    2nd: Please remove Partyfinder quests, give us bots who can help with those quests or change those quests to solo quests, lower the bosses HP and dps etc. I know it's an MMORPG, but I don't want to depend on other players for the MSQ. Endgame has enough stuff to do with other players.

    If those two things are done, I would be playing the MSQ again with other classes and enjoy it alot more. And these two things could also help other players to stay in this game.

    Thanks for reading and sorry for my english. I'm not a native english speaker.
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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    They are planning on streamlining it.

    1. You are progressing, you are still gaining exp and gil and unlocking content. Most importantly you are progressing the storyline, welcome to Final Fantasy! If you are so far beyond it you might consider leveling another job.

    2. Are you playing during the prime time of you data center? If you are playing what is the middle of the night for you datacenter queue times might be pretty bad. As Damage it's always worse than healers and tanks. It's also still kind of the start of the expansion and people probably aren't doing roulettes as much as they usually do. People doing roulettes fill out the parties for those doing specifics.
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    They are planning on streamlining it.
    I expect they will do every quest unrelated to the Waking Sands ones :P
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    Rica Elak'ha
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Funny enough...

    1. They are planning to / currently working on streamlining it.

    2. At least for the newest expansion, you get the option to run dungeons with NPCs.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    1. As said, they are streamlining that portion of the MSQ in the coming months. Please look forward to it.
    2. If you've unlocked Grand Company Squadrons you can run a lot of dungeons with them (NPCs) and you get instant queues and go at your pace. ShB has the trust system for the same idea but a bit more "efficient" with mechanics etc.

    So yea, both your issues are going to be solved or have been solved if you level up and unlock the solutions *Thumbs up* Welcome and good luck!
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    Tiberius Caesar
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    As the other have stated they are reworking the MSQ. Not sure when that will be completed though. Alternatively, they are going to release a NG+ eventually as well. So you could just purchase the MSQ skip from the mogstation and go through the story again once the NQ+ is released. Or, you could purchase the lvl boost for whatever job you want and continue your current MSQ at lvl 70. This could save you the trouble of gearing up pre 70 and if you boost a tank or healer your queue times will be decent.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    You've only been playing a month and you're 67 maining a DPS job. I think you're doing just fine.

    Try to keep in mind that fresh content comes out every 3-ish months, so you will get there, and before you even know it. Just keep in mind that you're experiencing the grind, and you'd be a unicorn if you weren't feeling it. That being said, you will find progressing through the MSQ to be faster as a healer or tank since their queue times are much shorter on average.
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    As already stated, the post-ARR story will get streamlined because many players are frustrated with it.
    The ~100 quests take an extremely long time and with the frequent trials and dungeons you need to do, they take even longer for a dps because of the queue times.

    However, you can try to use the Party Finder (not Dungeon Finder, the one where you queue and get paired with randoms. I think you confused those two) to get help.
    While I didn't need to during the MSQ as I was playing as a healer, I often used it during my ARR relic where I had to run all the 50s dungeons and found help really quickly. A lot of max level players regulary browse Party Finder for various reasons and many readily help with a quick unsync run to get you through a story dungeon.

    I would also stick to MSQ trials/ dungeons for now and not try to get into all the 50s dungeons you unlock after completing ARR. Escecially old max. level dungeons often have nightmarish queue times because they only pop up in 50/60/70 roulette which isn't done as often as other roulettes.

    I also recommend finding a FC. It makes sloggish times much more bearable if you are surrounded by nice players and can chat away while doing the 8348093485. fedex quest. They are usually willing to quickly get you through trials/ dungeons aswell. It's a matter of minutes at 80 while saving you tones of time.

    Also, since Twintania is an EU server try to aim for EU evening times to get your MSQ trials/ dungeons done.
    If your squadron is high enough, you can try to use that for the neccessary dungeons, though not all are accessible via Squadron and you will still need to queue for most of the MSQ dungeons. Traisl aren't accessible at all with a Squadron.
    Another solution, though one that also requires time, would be to level a healer or tank alongside your dps as they have really short queue times with healers getting almost always instant invites even at night. Unfortunately players always gravitate towards dps classes so they are over-represented and have the longest queue times out of all roles.

    At 71+ you can use trusts for dungeons and a few trials aside, you won't have an issue with queue times, no matter your role.
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    Thank you for all your replies. Then I'm looking forward to getting the streamlining patch.
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    They are planning on streamlining it.

    1. You are progressing, you are still gaining exp and gil and unlocking content. Most importantly you are progressing the storyline, welcome to Final Fantasy! If you are so far beyond it you might consider leveling another job.

    This is such a wonderful post. Becuase of the garbage gate system that lore purists defend. You can't do any class quests, because oh wait they are locked behind a msq. A person hits 50 and get garbage xp because those quests have garbage xp, unless they boosted them. But I recently did some lvl 50 quests I missed, xp was bad and did not scale at all.


    Then the comment just pay to skip it. I just want to scream. It has almost been half a decade since we have known it was bad. So new people should just pay to skip it. Don't people feel ashamed even suggesting that.



    The one good suggestion is tank or healer que. The other option which doesn't seem suggested much. If you just want to clear it and xp isn't that great anyways. Get a level 80 friend from FC to just speed run it unsynced. Unless it has a mechanic that requires multiple players. All that stuff just takes a few minutes.
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