Suggestion for: RDM improvements

[Havelocke]

The raise issue is such a red hearing. The act of using raise - even instantly - significantly reduces a Red Mage's damage so the price is paid when the ability is used. Players who play RDM understand that is the trade of for using the skill, so imho it shouldn't be used as justification by others to continue the status quo.

I think RDMs do need a tweak to remain competitive. My suggested tweak would be to give Verthunder and Verareo a 100% chance to proc Verfire and Verstone - basically what they did with Machinist.

That would give a boost to dps and make the RDM skills flow better.

[SaberMaxwell]

I think RDMs do need a tweak to remain competitive. My suggested tweak would be to give Verthunder and Verareo a 100% chance to proc Verfire and Verstone - basically what they did with Machinist.

That would give a boost to dps and make the RDM skills flow better.

The suggested tweak would basically delete Jolt 2 from the kit lol

Actually not even basically, there'd be no reason to ever use Jolt 2. You precast a 5s spell, and every downtime where procs could fall off you use vercure to proc a dualcast to use a 5s spell with. Though if they did this, and reduced the proc time to 5s or 10s or something, it could create its own "enochian" style mechanic where you want to keep Verfire and Verstone Ready up almost the whole fight at pain of needing to use the inferior Jolt 2...

You know what, after some thought, that'd be a neat little tweak. I like it. 100% chance to get Fire/Stone Ready, but reduce the timer to somewhere between 5s and 10s and make that RDM's minigame. Maybe edit Acceleration to extend existing buffs by 5s and/or grant both buffs, act as RDM's version of "Flourish." Verflare and Verholy's granting of the buffs would need to be examined as well.

[Havelocke]

The suggested tweak would basically delete Jolt 2 from the kit lol

Actually not even basically, there'd be no reason to ever use Jolt 2. You precast a 5s spell, and every downtime where procs could fall off you use vercure to proc a dualcast to use a 5s spell with. Though if they did this, and reduced the proc time to 5s or 10s or something, it could create its own "enochian" style mechanic where you want to keep Verfire and Verstone Ready up almost the whole fight at pain of needing to use the inferior Jolt 2...

Exactly this. Rdm would need to take care that their rotation didn't drop or they would suffer a DPS penalty - exactly like BLM. In addition, the increase in dps would also increase the penalty in using Raise or any other non-dps spell.

Its simple and its a win win. The only question is do others agree?

[Leidiriv]

Exactly this. Rdm would need to take care that their rotation didn't drop or they would suffer a DPS penalty - exactly like BLM. In addition, the increase in dps would also increase the penalty in using Raise or any other non-dps spell.

Its simple and its a win win. The only question is do others agree?

Please no, this would kill any and all rotational tension with proc/mana management and make RDM truly a class with barely any optimization like some people seem to believe. The functionality of RDM is more than fine as it is right now, it literally just needs numbers.

[SaberMaxwell]

Please no, this would kill any and all rotational tension with proc/mana management and make RDM truly a class with barely any optimization like some people seem to believe. The functionality of RDM is more than fine as it is right now, it literally just needs numbers.

This is a fair criticism of the idea; it would be trading out RNG and proc management for a much more BLM-esque playstyle revolving around short timers, and people who want that do already have BLM to play.