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    Archwizard Drake
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    The thing is when you look at the actual red mage package.... it has 8 single target damage dealing spells, 7 physical abilities (counting the enchanted melee combo since it has to be used in close range), and 2 healing abilities.
    Couple things.

    One, including the enchanted combo in the definition of "physical skills" makes it broad enough to cover both "ranged attacks that deal physical damage" and "melee attacks that do magic damage", plus whatever Reprise is, which are kinda diametrically opposed (and those types of ideologically inverted skills should exist in a hybrid anyway). You're also ignoring the origins of those spells, our AoEs, and the frequency of use for each skill -- by your numbers we should be a half-melee job.

    Two, hybridization doesn't necessarily mean a strict 50/50 (or in this case, 33/33/33) split. If that were plausible we'd be seeing either spammable oGCD heals, every spell having some kind of supportive function, or just a ton of pointless copies of healer-specific tools that we would avoid as much as we already do Cure. We don't need to inflate our kit with Veresuna, Vermedica, a barrier and an extra tier of healing spell to be a "hybrid", you'd need all that to be a healer (with a lot of DPS tools).
    The fact that we have a semi-potent Cure and standard Raise is, in itself, a massive step towards a more supportive function than most jobs ever get, particularly with regards to our ability to use insta-Raise multiple times in quick succession.

    So I feel like an alternative to verraise should be some other utility ability.
    Then you have completely missed the point of my suggestion.

    It's not "hey we should have a replacement for Verraise while still retaining a support role," but rather it's "we should be able to choose whether or not to be taxed for a support role we may not actually dip into, and ascertain what the actual DPS value is of Verraise if the devs intend to hit us so hard for having it."
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    Last edited by Archwizard; 10-14-2019 at 07:26 PM.