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    Areku Foxfire
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    This would be the equivalent of removing the skill from the game. WoW doesn't have such a thing and never has for its rescue-equivalent and it does fine.

    Just because you feel you don't need it, doesn't mean a 'disable assistance' button should exist, as it would simply lead to people who are much worse players than you ending up standing in AoEs and the only way the healer can get them out of the AoE doesn't work because they felt the need to use that option. And then the healer has to use their mp to raise the person...all in all, such an option does more harm than good. And at a time where healers have so few options to do their job to begin with, you want to take away another option from them?

    There's also advanced tactics like using rescue to get DPS out of limit break animation lock, which would completely go away...

    Instead, if you feel you are being griefed by healers, then you should perhaps use the report feature the game offers instead of making a thread like this. Healers get griefed by tanks and dps all the time, report them, and move on.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 09-19-2019 at 02:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    WoW doesn't have such a thing and never has for its rescue-equivalent and it does fine.
    It most definitely did have such a thing the last time I played in WoD - it was an item that came from Blingtron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    It most definitely did have such a thing the last time I played in WoD - it was an item that came from Blingtron.
    The Neural Silencer

    On topic, I use Rescue for those DPS who like to stand in no man's land outside my aoe heal range.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 09-19-2019 at 09:56 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    This would be the equivalent of removing the skill from the game. WoW doesn't have such a thing and never has for its rescue-equivalent and it does fine.

    Just because you feel you don't need it, doesn't mean a 'disable assistance' button should exist, as it would simply lead to people who are much worse players than you ending up standing in AoEs and the only way the healer can get them out of the AoE doesn't work because they felt the need to use that option. And then the healer has to use their mp to raise the person...all in all, such an option does more harm than good. And at a time where healers have so few options to do their job to begin with, you want to take away another option from them?

    There's also advanced tactics like using rescue to get DPS out of limit break animation lock, which would completely go away...

    Instead, if you feel you are being griefed by healers, then you should perhaps use the report feature the game offers instead of making a thread like this. Healers get griefed by tanks and dps all the time, report them, and move on.
    Oh no, idiotic players dying to mechanics, what a tragedy, thank yaoi that healers have always had rescue and haven't been forced to deal with the inconvenience of not being able to control a player's movement.
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    YojimboM's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    This would be the equivalent of removing the skill from the game. WoW doesn't have such a thing and never has for its rescue-equivalent and it does fine.

    Just because you feel you don't need it, doesn't mean a 'disable assistance' button should exist, as it would simply lead to people who are much worse players than you ending up standing in AoEs and the only way the healer can get them out of the AoE doesn't work because they felt the need to use that option. And then the healer has to use their mp to raise the person...all in all, such an option does more harm than good. And at a time where healers have so few options to do their job to begin with, you want to take away another option from them?

    There's also advanced tactics like using rescue to get DPS out of limit break animation lock, which would completely go away...

    Instead, if you feel you are being griefed by healers, then you should perhaps use the report feature the game offers instead of making a thread like this. Healers get griefed by tanks and dps all the time, report them, and move on.
    Reporting does nothing. I've reported multiple healers abusing it in actual abuse situations (using it on purpose after I asked them not to), and I see them in DF later because nothing happened.

    Using Rescue to cancel DPS limit break animation is a pre-planned maneuver 99% of the time. Any intelligent uses of Rescue would still be there for group play since you can turn it back on.

    "And at a time where healers have so few options to do their job to begin with, you want to take away another option from them?" I have no idea where this is coming from. Healers are stronger than ever. It is mathematically incorrect to say anything different. Healers have been given stronger heals potency-for-potency across the board, with WHM even being blatantly and heavily overtuned. No amount of "options" will save someone from stupid, so if someone getting hit by AOEs is such a big issue then do it the old fashioned way and let them die and don't raise them until it's convenient for you. They probably aren't contributing enough to the party otherwise to need to be alive anyways.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    This would be the equivalent of removing the skill from the game. WoW doesn't have such a thing and never has for its rescue-equivalent and it does fine.
    https://www.wowhead.com/item=109599/neural-silencer

    I'm just saying, if you're gonna state that, should probably check your items first.
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