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  1. #81
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Sounds like there is more against it than for it. I don't think it was added till sometime late in Heavensward. Think we did just fine before they added it. They sure didn't need it in ARR for extreme and savage content. All know seen it cause bunch of wipes from healer using it. Wonder what happen if they used it on a blm and took them away from there leylines.
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  2. #82
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Wonder what happen if they used it on a blm and took them away from there leylines.
    Can’t speak for anyone else, But first time I tell them to stop, and from second time onwards I just stop moving entirely as apparently the healer thinks they can decide where I am supposed to go whenever I am supposed to go there.
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  3. #83
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    That is a valid argument. However, I will point out that the healer is still responsible for your well being. When used correctly, Rescue is a great skill in the healer arsenal. One will argue that it is hardly used correctly, and that's fair; but to take it away from the healers who do know how to use it is not fair. Should other jobs in this game lose abilities as well because players don't know how to use them correctly? Everything we do in party play affects the group in one way or the other; directly, or indirectly.

    Another thing about Rescue is you have to keep in mind that if it is used on you, you might be about to eat a mechanic you are not aware of. After all, that is how most of us get hit by them in the first place. I will also mention again that you might just be the innocent bystander (especially if you are the last person on said healer's party list) that the healer pulls to save their own hide because no one is stacking with him or her. It is kind of a bummer for you, but you took one for the team and the healer will probably toss a comm your way. I know I would.
    mm nah if you have a stack marker, you should be moving towards the party, preferably melee range, instead of dragging some poor sap over to you.
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  4. #84
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    Makarrov's Avatar
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    Sef Makaro
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    This would be the equivalent of removing the skill from the game. WoW doesn't have such a thing and never has for its rescue-equivalent and it does fine..
    Sure it does. It’s called Neural Silencer and works on Leap of Faith, Misdirection/Tricks of the Trick and Swapblaster. It was a consumable with a long duration, I was never without it in group content.
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  5. #85
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    Kirajah's Avatar
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    Sacha Amayro
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 86
    So my opinion on this is...

    It can be nice to have - we've had a few instances where it saved some members and thus, a few wipes.

    But the thing is... the cast time is too long, making even immediate reaction times not good enough, you have to predict whats going to happen some time before to efficiently save someone in most content.

    One time, when SHB just came out so my healer (who I know) recently redid his bars. We were doing Innocence and he was doing the blades in the bow formation. I was MT so I was in a safe spot with everyone else in the safe spot behind him. The healer hit rescue, which scooped me up and I travelled from safe spot, across all the blades, and died as soon as I was next to him. And yea, it cased a wipe.

    And in WoW, one tank fell into Lava, and he was slowly dying because... well ... it was lava. the pit has no way of getting back up, I directed him to where I had line of sight of him and was able to Leap of Faith him back to us, and healed him up. It has uses but its niche.

    I propose:

    No cast time, make it immediate
    Speed up the actual rescue travel time
    Make whoever you are rescuing immune to damage/ground effects for the duration
    Make it so that you can't rescue people off of edges - make it so they either go where the healer currently is, or have them stop at the edge that they are at.
    Increase the cooldown


    Rather than outright removing the effect (however niche it may be) or removing the ability.
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  6. #86
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    Azrael's Avatar
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    Cocoa Sip
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    Spriggan
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I can confirm this skill is not being used just because of its usefulness. I have had healers "rescuing" me away from the fight in dungeons(playing drk right now), because they wanted to dictate when to pull and how many packs I should pull, this is really irritating. You are not "rescuing" anyone doing this, you are just abusing the skill.
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    Last edited by Azrael; 09-23-2019 at 05:23 AM.

  7. #87
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    mm nah if you have a stack marker, you should be moving towards the party, preferably melee range, instead of dragging some poor sap over to you.
    Sure, have you ever been a healer with a stack marker within melee range and no one bothers to even come close as i have i use rescue for those times why should i die due to my team's(other alliances too) incompetency, if it saves my butt then i be using it even at the cost of your dps, a dead dps can be raised, a dead healer may not be depending on the content/comp.
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  8. #88
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    Mewthredel's Avatar
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    Lil'mew Mewthredel
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 80
    If you remove rescue then you have to remove all the idiot dps that give you a reason to use it
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  9. #89
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    Kurando's Avatar
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    Ku Rando
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    Alpha
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    snip.
    The amount of times I've had to do this because a sprout was new in Final Steps and didn't know what to the do with the stack marker so they just ran off with it. It's often easier to just Rescue someone than have to type "STACK" and hope people bother to read it in time
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  10. #90
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    Nabril's Avatar
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    Dorion Borstein
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    Halicarnassus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    Yes please. Nothing beats being a BLM and using the shield ability to keep up damage and not dropping Enochian/leaving your leylines just to have a healer pull you anyway losing you more GCDs than you would have lost by simply moving. Like wow... It is almost as if they do not know we have a shield...
    As a BLM, I support this message.
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