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  1. #1
    Player
    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    You said they were using it to stop tanks from wall to wall pulling, whereas I have had healers yanking me around to tell me to wall to wall pull XD
    I did die in a dungeon earlier from doing wall to wall pulling, after a healer yanked me and then they face pulled more. I took the adds off her, but the incoming damage was too much even with using CDs.

    I do hate it when I am easily dodging AoEs, but due to ping it doesn't look like it on their screen, so they yank me, it can feel pretty disorientating.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 09-20-2019 at 09:02 AM.

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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Hmmm.... Rescue messed up your rotation? Dragged you into an AoE? Maybe even killed you?

    Ohh, I wonder many times DPS have forced me to use a CD on them instead of the tank? Put their AoE on top of me? Killed me?

    Trust me, other players make me do things I don't want to ALL the time. Rescue is one of those things you simply have to deal with when you queue up with randoms. Also note that a healer might Rescue you to save their own butt. I've done this countless times when I need someone to stack with me, and you can best believe me avoiding a KO status is more important than your deeps.
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Hmmm.... Rescue messed up your rotation? Dragged you into an AoE? Maybe even killed you?

    Ohh, I wonder many times DPS have forced me to use a CD on them instead of the tank? Put their AoE on top of me? Killed me?

    Trust me, other players make me do things I don't want to ALL the time. Rescue is one of those things you simply have to deal with when you queue up with randoms. Also note that a healer might Rescue you to save their own butt. I've done this countless times when I need someone to stack with me, and you can best believe me avoiding a KO status is more important than your deeps.
    Can't agree more.
    I have to deal with people killing me because of MUH DEEPS, forcing me to blow oGCDs on them when they would've been more important later on, forcing me to ST heal them because they stood out of range for aoe heals or even have to run after them, they will have to deal with healers pulling them into their bubbles and stack markers.
    If I see a tank dancing around right outside my Earthly Star, I will pull them inside.
    If I see someone ignoring my stack marker though I positioned myself nicely, I will pull them inside.
    If I see someone about to get killed by a mechanic, I will pull them to a safe spot.
    If I see someone using LB, I will pull them out of animation lock.
    If I see someone standing at the other end of the goddamn planet, I will pull them closer to the group.
    Is it annoying for them? Probably.
    But they could just... you know... not stand in bad/ at the end of the world/ outside of stack markers. I prefer mildly annoying them over my own death/ their death.

    Oh and I admit, I also use it to troll my friends. Because that just never gets old. Let's see which comes first: their knockback immunity or my Rescue. (:
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    Kobalos's Avatar
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    Narukai Nephilim
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Only time I use it is to grief my boyfriend XD
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    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

    ― Oscar Wilde

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    Eli85's Avatar
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    Eldred Draconis
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I agree with you OP, or I'd just remove it from the game. Adding a skill into the game that allows another player to control where your character goes (admittedly briefly) is way too open to abuse.
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    White Mage Lv 90
    One place it has a use is the S rank Agalope during Seductive Sonata, which forces players who are too close to march into a melee range one-shot.

    The funny part is quite a few times when we have multiple healers and one guy gets caught, we all seem to go "finally, our moment to use this ability!" and the poor player gets ricocheted around the area like a tennis ball between several healers. I've seen up to a 4 way chain so far. Fun times.
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    You couldn't add an option to disable it, unless you also added something to display who has it enabled/disabled so the healer knows who they can use it on beforehand. And if there were some people who it couldn't be used on it probably wouldn't be worth having at all since it's such a limited thing.

    I would rather have something like a divine benison where I could just bubble someone to be able to take the hit, but I guess that would just become a boring raid tool for use on tanks only.

    I like the idea of rescue, but the limited number of situations it's actually useful and my latency make it not a great ability.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    You couldn't add an option to disable it, unless you also added something to display who has it enabled/disabled so the healer knows who they can use it on beforehand.
    Why's that necessary? This game happily lets you waste Raises on people who already got one (a problem that was noticeably absent in FFXI for the record; as soon as someone got a Raise all other Raise attempts on that person would fail to cast and therefore not waste any more MP); why would they make an exception with this?
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 09-21-2019 at 06:24 AM.

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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I'm for an opt out. Been recused too often when i didn't need to be rescued. I prefer to be responsible for my own gameplay and don't need the healer being active on my behalf.
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'm for an opt out. Been recused too often when i didn't need to be rescued. I prefer to be responsible for my own gameplay and don't need the healer being active on my behalf.
    That is a valid argument. However, I will point out that the healer is still responsible for your well being. When used correctly, Rescue is a great skill in the healer arsenal. One will argue that it is hardly used correctly, and that's fair; but to take it away from the healers who do know how to use it is not fair. Should other jobs in this game lose abilities as well because players don't know how to use them correctly? Everything we do in party play affects the group in one way or the other; directly, or indirectly.

    Another thing about Rescue is you have to keep in mind that if it is used on you, you might be about to eat a mechanic you are not aware of. After all, that is how most of us get hit by them in the first place. I will also mention again that you might just be the innocent bystander (especially if you are the last person on said healer's party list) that the healer pulls to save their own hide because no one is stacking with him or her. It is kind of a bummer for you, but you took one for the team and the healer will probably toss a comm your way. I know I would.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 09-21-2019 at 11:23 AM.

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