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    Player
    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Also don't forget it's really useful to keep uptime on DPS who use Limit Breaks.

    Cast bar is done, Rescue, Boss is hit by LB and they can go back to DPSing.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Also don't forget it's really useful to keep uptime on DPS who use Limit Breaks.

    Cast bar is done, Rescue, Boss is hit by LB and they can go back to DPSing.
    I have to beg healers to do anything constructive like this. The only time it was useful was during Titania and after we broke our tethers and had to avoid the growing vine AOEs. As melee, they could rescue me across and I could keep uptime.

    the only time i can recall using it badly was during E3N when I was dodging Maelstrom correctly and they pulled me across the arena for no reason. that triggered me because I thought I was hit by the wave at first as it was extremely jarring. But I've been clearing E3S for 5 weeks now, I don't pulled during Maelstrom...
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    I have to laugh cause most of the time they use it too late or pull from something that isn't that bad into something worse.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    But how else would I encourage my tank to pull more?
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    But how else would I encourage my tank to pull more?
    By telling them they could pull more. If you do this then shame on you. I said this on the DF stories once but
    I had a healer do this to me as a new tank in Shisui a while back and I told them I was new to the dungeon and
    instead of telling me she could handle bigger pulls, she runs past me, grabs mobs then forces me to pull them all off her.
    So no. That actually really irritated me. I didn't say anything and pulled more as I went since I then knew
    the team could handle it but still.
    (Btw I dunno if you did this not or joking, I just thought about it when you said this.)

    As for Rescue itself, the problem for me is, you can almost barely rescue well unless
    there's a long start up in a boss mech because the delay of use.
    The cast is instant, but the tick to pull people to you isn't.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 09-20-2019 at 05:27 AM. Reason: Typo.

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    Leon Reddas
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    Masamune
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    Scholar Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    But how else would I encourage my tank to pull more?
    I don't like this at all. Just like Jybril's story, not all tanks are comfortable with big pulls or take a little while to get started. I seldom tank and when I do I'm usually a little anxious at first, but once I get in to it I then go on to pull bigger if it's possible, it doesn't help if a healer is dragging me on purpose because they are unhappy with the pace. Say if you want more but don't try to control it with Rescue, doing it more than once then sorry that's going to be reported.
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    I'septha Tayuun
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    Faerie
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    Bard Lv 80
    I have been in to many pf groups for content that has a person who will not listen and refuses to do mechanics, Rescue is the most useful thing ever here because you can stop slow person from killing everyone by just tugging him away at the right moment
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    Novae Ombreloup
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I think Rescue is very usefull during Titania EX last phase, when someone get hit by phantom rune. Otherwise, it's just a troll skill ( like many others, I've been rescued in aoes by FC mates just because they thought it was funny. It's not.).
    Do they need to remove it/add a disable option? I don't think so.
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Rescue is too useful, the cases of misuse are too small, this is just confirmation bias: the thread. You saw it being misused once or twice and you think it's a widespread issue. That's not a reason to remove or disable a skill.

    The fact is that everyone who actually needs to be rescue doesn't know they need to be rescued, if they knew they wouldn't be standing in bad in the first place. If someone uses it in bad faith report them, if someone makes a mistake take a breath and realize you don't die IRL if you lose a gcd.
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    I used rescue on my dragoon in e3s recently who used LB3 at the worse time, I was able to get him out of the animation lock while still getting off the damage and saving him from the mechanic coming right after. I also really enjoy dragging someone off with me when I see a run is dead and just want to reset. (about the only fun part in healing anymore, tbh.)
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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