Suggestion: Add a disable option for Rescue

[Ilenya]

I feel like this is more confirmation bias than anything. I don't personally use it all that much myself when healing, so much so that I tend to forget I have it. But I have used it to good effects, most recently to deal with a tank not bothering to move for Tidal Wave in e3 and to show tanks new to e4 where to stand for certain mechanics.

[Makeda]

I feel like this is more confirmation bias than anything. I don't personally use it all that much myself when healing, so much so that I tend to forget I have it. But I have used it to good effects, most recently to deal with a tank not bothering to move for Tidal Wave in e3 and to show tanks new to e4 where to stand for certain mechanics.

This is not often taken that way though. What happens is the person is suddenly somewhere else and has to mentally reorient, and may likely have blown a cooldown in a now bad spot or have lost a few GCDs from their rotation and need to re-evaluate what still lines up.

And they may not know why even after whatever you saved them from hits - the camera shift and mental wtf will both possibly block them from learning...

Communication or just letting them eat the debuff a few times is better.

[Ilenya]

This is not often taken that way though. What happens is the person is suddenly somewhere else and has to mentally reorient, and may likely have blown a cooldown in a now bad spot or have lost a few GCDs from their rotation and need to re-evaluate what still lines up.

And they may not know why even after whatever you saved them from hits - the camera shift and mental wtf will both possibly block them from learning...

Communication or just letting them eat the debuff a few times is better.

I was on call with the tanks new to e4, so that was never in issue, and I would rather keep the MT alive (No cooldowns used, since I moved him and nothing saves you from falling off if Rescue can trigger) than allow them to die just to learn. The fact I rescued the e3 tank 3 times for Tidal Wave shows that they clearly never learned even after it should have been obvious.

[Dirwen]

Never once used Rescue on my healer jobs as the only times it was used on me were from trolls. I am with the camp that says do away with it as I see no real use especially with getting it to work right with bad connections and such.

If rescue worked for the shadowbringer dungeon to get across that one empty floor mechanic then yea it would be useful but otherwise nope.

[Billythepancake]

Never once used Rescue on my healer jobs as the only times it was used on me were from trolls. I am with the camp that says do away with it as I see no real use especially with getting it to work right with bad connections and such.

If rescue worked for the shadowbringer dungeon to get across that one empty floor mechanic then yea it would be useful but otherwise nope.

In a few savage fights rescue is actually mandatory for some strats (see: o12s and unreal strat) it also has a use for melee DPS that just used LB to get them out of the animation lock faster so they can get back to DPSing. So to say it has no use outside of trolling is wrong. Maybe it's not as useful as it should be, because server ticks are honestly ass in this game, but it does have its uses.

[Dzian]

If rescue worked for the shadowbringer dungeon to get across that one empty floor mechanic then yea it would be useful but otherwise nope.

that's why i said it should be a warp to healer tool instead of a move to healer tool. be much more functional and useful

[Canadane]

They can't get rid of it.
Minor ShB spoilers:

It's in a cutscene now!

[Erendis]

They can't get rid of it.
Minor ShB spoilers:

It's in a cutscene now!

NPCs are still castin stoneskin though...

On topic. I used resque twice maybe? Last time was at Aglaope when I noticed confuzzeled tank running to deathly song. Except the other healer used it a milisecond earlier so tank got ping ponged around /facepalm...

[Crushnight]

I've used Rescue more times in ShB already than the entirety of SB.

My usual cases of Rescue in ShB so far:
1.Final boss of 71 dungeon double just over half room cleaves you get hit by 1 i will rescue you to safe side(you already lost dps due to being knocked up)
2.all bosses of 75 dungeon each and every one i've had to rescue people to safety sometimes wish it had a shorter cd >_>, Last boss more if i see you don't prevent knockback.
3.Titania ex vines just to allow the melee to keep as much uptime as possible

Then you have the myriad of people who run away with stack markers or worse run from me when i have it (your above level 70 you should know the marker by now), the people who just don't move for anything and the people who troll with mechanics for their own amusement.

Has Rescue been misused by people, oh yea, always going to be bad apples at points, i still remember you hlr who rescued me as i was about to technical finish to the far edge of platform where no else was (and then proceeded to not use a single dps spell was icing on that sundae) but doesn't mean the skill needs to be removed or have an opt in system else every skill that interacts with a party member should.

[Makeda]

I’ve seem it used to cause my AoEs to land on nothing after flourishing as a dancer from healers who didn’t like me being near melee, and to “save me” from whatever “that weird thing is” when I popped my level 80 dance move (forget the name right now, been off dancer for a few weeks now).

I’ve seen it used to prevent tanks from sharing the fae light tank buster thus leading to a wipe, or to pull a tank to the group right before a cleave so the boss turns and cleaves into the group...

I have never seen a legitimate use of the skill.

The closest to that I have seen, is just an argumentative use: a healer pulling a tank back from chain pulling... but even if you see this as legit, it’s often done too late, resulting in adds locking onto the DPS that were between the healer and tank and needing a few GCDs to chase down mons that have split in multiple directions...

The skill is basically there for when a player is playing badly...

to let the healer correct it. But that just presumes the healer is better
- which is often not correct. Even with 50/50 odds of who is the better player the perspective for “is that a mistake” is better seen from the person who is being “saved”...

If we assume equal skill and it’s a legit mistake, the odds are vastly higher the person in the wrong spot sees it before someone else and someone else usually sees it too late, and has delay over doing something over it...
- better to just let the person who was going to make the mistake make it and learn from it.

I say that knowing full well that as a tank main I routinely move bosses because someone has stepped between me and the boss right before a cleave... usually a healer...
So I know that we all take actions to correct for others... but when your action interrupts others that moves things a step too far.