NIN in 5.1

**Duskane** · 10-18-2019 09:38 PM

ill wait and see how the adjustments to the mudras feel
but everything else they changed with NIN was ok for me
shadow fang more like Sonic break,TCJ 100% times better,more flexible TA,gauge cost 50,stacks of shadow clones.

**Tenryou** · 10-18-2019 10:12 PM

Apparently from what this person in one of my discords is saying they put ninjutsu on the GCD buff their pot and made the GCDshort. They nerfed trick attack and made it any position and duration longer. Also increased nins personal dmg

I'm ok with this. i hope this helps with latency issues tbh since it'll be less weaving.

**Osteichthyes** · 10-18-2019 10:17 PM

I like the changes all around, making things a little more streamlined and less dependant on having amazing ping. Might be able to actually try nin now.

**0Lime** · 10-18-2019 10:20 PM

I don't really know how to digest these ninja changes. All I wanted was a fix for mudra lag. The no positional requirement on TA is cool too I guess, but we already have true north to solve the problem of not being able to TA on the rear for whatever reason. I wasn't watching too clearly, but I think Shadow Fang is no longer part of a combo? If so that's okay, but it seems like all these "QoL" changes will make the job very easy to play, not that it already wasn't.

**Neela** · 10-18-2019 10:21 PM

Might get his meta spot back if TA extended duration fits burstwindows better or is able to extend the burst phase at all... if sam won't pull 20k now x'D

**Duskane** · 10-18-2019 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by 0Lime

I don't really know how to digest these ninja changes. All I wanted was a fix for mudra lag. The no positional requirement on TA is cool too I guess, but we already have true north to solve the problem of not being able to TA on the rear for whatever reason. I wasn't watching too clearly, but I think Shadow Fang is no longer part of a combo? If so that's okay, but it seems like all these "QoL" changes will make the job very easy to play, not that it already wasn't.

TA change probably just help TN not feel so needed to combined with TA
since a lot of people did just True north with Trick Attack if they are unsure or lack of trust in tank

**0Lime** · 10-18-2019 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Duskane

TA change probably just help TN not feel so needed to combined with TA
since a lot of people did just True north with Trick Attack if they are unsure or lack of trust in tank

Yeah it's really just cutting the middleman out of having to use TN for TA, which we all already did anyway because I don't know about you, but I don't trust DF tanks usually lol. My question now though is...what can we use TN for now? AE? AC? We rarely lose access to the flank, so I can only think of using it on AE for when the rear becomes unavailable.

**wereotter** · 10-19-2019 12:05 AM

I noticed that the charges on Kassatsu were gone from Yoshi's bar and that the mudra skills themselves had the charges.... this seems like a nerf?

Fewer ice Shuriken, but I'm not 100% sure if it is or not.

**Tenryou** · 10-19-2019 12:16 AM

maybe they instead made katon and that useless ice spell the upgraded versions permanently. which is huge dps increase imo and would give kassatsu it's crit ninjutsu jutsu back?

**Duskane** · 10-19-2019 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by wereotter

I noticed that the charges on Kassatsu were gone from Yoshi's bar and that the mudra skills themselves had the charges.... this seems like a nerf?

Fewer ice Shuriken, but I'm not 100% sure if it is or not.

they said there is a pot increase for all the mudra skills so probs ends up being the same if not more in the end

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