Thread: NIN in 5.1

Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Nah.. All the other buffs NIN got will easily override the TA loss, and possibly increase overall DPS

My static brought a NIN even when they were hot garbage so I don't see how this could be worse than 5.0 release

I guess with Trick Attack lasting longer now it should be possible to squeeze both TCJ and Bunshin into it now.

Maybe a better opener would be Suiton > Spinning Edge (Mug+Kassatsu) > Gale Slash (Trick Attack+ Shadow Fang) > Hyoshin (Bunshin) > Aeolian Edge (DWD+TCJ) > Raiton (Assassinate)

Originally Posted by Eloah

So here's an odd question. Why didn't they just make Shadow Fang the second hit in a "new" Armor Crush combo, going from Spinning Edge into Shadow Fang into Armor Crush?

im guessing its because if you have to refresh huton with armor crush you could potentially waste potency on shadow fang refreshing it early just to get to armor crush. unless they dont remove the ability to get to armor crush through gust slash

I'm just a casual NIN player, so I am/was unaware that NIN was in such a place that warranted such drastic changes. I was fine with how it was with the exception of echoed mudra/ping woes, but looking forward to basically learning how to play it again. I still believe the devs want to achieve a 1:1 ratio of ninjitsu and melee combat for NIN. Perhaps even 2:1 in favor of ninjitsu, but first glance at these potency increases from someone of my perspective would definitely make it seem that if NIN had personal DPS issues; they've been addressed in this new patch.

What I do know is that I've always felt like NIN could have some button presses reduced. Things like the change to TCJ no longer requiring a mudra+ninjitsu input is a VERY welcome change.

Originally Posted by Eloah

Though Huton lasts longer, so the refresh would fall on Shadow Fang more, but meh, what's done is done. Not like I mained Ninja, but I feel for those who do, like my friend, T.T

Another odd question is, why have they not fixed the ability names. Aeolian means relating to wind, so it would make sense for that to refresh Huton. And Armor Crush sound like it should be the highest hitting weapon skill. Ah but these are personal gripes.

i just hope it doesnt become too easy to play. now shadow fang is just a fire and forget ability every 70 sec, thats one less thing to really manage ontop of the other stuff we dont have to manage anymore. also yeah i always thought armor crush refreshing huton was weird instead of AE which is a wind ability.

I had a slight hunch the Kassatsu cooldown being listed as 15 seconds was an error.

It's still one minute and thus remains relegated strictly to Trick Attack windows.

Originally Posted by KageTokage

I had a slight hunch the Kassatsu cooldown being listed as 15 seconds was an error.

It's still one minute and thus remains relegated strictly to Trick Attack windows.

My dream of using ninjutsu faster is dead.

I love the Ten Chi Jin change, but the mudra change I am a bit iffy about. It feels very slow and a bit clunky to me atm.