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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Why are bots even forming FCs?
    All types of bots benefit from having access to a FC chest for easy item/gil transfers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just-Communication View Post
    For each bot you need to have an active subscription, no? So first they need to buy the game, then get a subscription, and then carry out their activities. Doesn't that mean the people behind these bots make sufficient money through RMT profit from the initial investment? And, would they running multiple instance of the game on a single machine or would they require separate machines?

    I imagine people already know this but bots are just the outcome when the disease is something else altogether.
    Someone actually mentioned that their bank straight-up blocked transactions with SE presumably because of all the chargeback fraud the bots were doing.
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    Hash Browns
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Someone actually mentioned that their bank straight-up blocked transactions with SE presumably because of all the chargeback fraud the bots were doing.

    This reminds me of a similar situation that happened with RS years, and year ago.
    They had to remove free trade because bots were killing the game.

    RuneScape had such a bot problem that banks threatened Jagex.
    Either stop the CC fraud, or they will refuse Jagexs transactions all together.

    Jagex was forced so have a dedicated bot busting team, and continues to do so to this day because of how bad it hurt the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Someone actually mentioned that their bank straight-up blocked transactions with SE presumably because of all the chargeback fraud the bots were doing.

    You might not have been around, but this is why we had crysta. It was a super complicated system where we put our credit cards into a 3rd party website to purchase crysta to then purchase time. SE has had a lot of trouble with charge backs since 11.
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    Cassius Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    All types of bots benefit from having access to a FC chest for easy item/gil transfers.



    Someone actually mentioned that their bank straight-up blocked transactions with SE presumably because of all the chargeback fraud the bots were doing.
    Got a call from my bank asking if the monthly charge was from me. They said they got a huge number of charge backs from SE. I would say its a huge problem that square needs to take seriously. Probably first need to implement fraud protection which hopefully gets rid of a handful of bots...
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