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    Syntax Lies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    I don't like the idea of having more than one song up... how many songs do we have? how many can we have up? what percentage of our total songs is that..... even two songs = OP imho.
    I think some songs should be ok to overlap and others that are op shouldn't. Swift song for instance i think should not wipe other songs.
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    Leelya Seraphs
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    I'd glad people have weighed in with their own opinions on the matter. What I gather from the reading of everyone's thoughts is that they believe that Bard is either a really good dps still or a great supporting role character. This is essentially what I was asking that we be made more of. Having thm as a job that bard can pull abilities from is useless. Changing that scenario would better benefit bard being in either a supporting or dps role much better.

    Don't get me wrong I like the job and all. It just appears to be all over the place in it's current state.
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    BRD is the only job that gets access to both Cure/Raise and Resonance... it's really useful so I wouldn't discount that all of THM's abilities are useless for BRD (Sanguine Rite is excellent too, and BRD is the only job that can AOE it). As the game progresses chances are we may see more cross-class abilities added to existing classes so we can see what happens.
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    BRD is the only job that gets access to both Cure/Raise and Resonance... it's really useful so I wouldn't discount that all of THM's abilities are useless for BRD (Sanguine Rite is excellent too, and BRD is the only job that can AOE it). As the game progresses chances are we may see more cross-class abilities added to existing classes so we can see what happens.
    sanguin rite i find mostly useless on bard. primarily cos you dont get the damage reduction.
    my cross crass class abilities are cure stoneskin sacred prism raise and resonance. and i typically suggest any bard to use the same.

    Resonance is just to good to pass up. increases the range on your songs which can be usefull when mages are spread out. and it typically lets you raise people from a nice little safe spot.
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    Carraway Author
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    Prism+Sanguine Rite can be an invaluable time-saver during AV/CC speedruns; I would never go without it.
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    the only thing i don't like about bard is how some people use it as an excuse to be an awful DD. say things like "im not DD im support" lol, bard is still more DD then anything else
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    the only thing i don't like about bard is how some people use it as an excuse to be an awful DD. say things like "im not DD im support" lol, bard is still more DD then anything else
    Thats true though i can put out awesome dps and keep buffs up on all the right people. once got called the best bard on the server by a group of people after someone parsed my brd doing 131 dps in a feast for fools. almost double any other dd in the group. though alot of that depends on time spent dead and moogles not using maximoogle. still it's nice to be complimented. i average between 80-100 at moogle though with time spent snging ballads and stoneskins so it's certainly a capable dd job.

    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    you should use barrage and quick know before the other skills so the cooldowns are refreshing while you use the other skills.
    i wasnt quoting any particular order of ability just pointing out the amount of damage you can put out in a short time. the order in which i pop my skills is dependant on timers
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    Tyler Wevlum
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I just wish the buffs felt a bit more part of the archer aspect; i.e. we use a buff and then a particular combo might strengthen the buff or extend the buff or grant extra effects to the buff etc. Though that would be kind of difficult given how classes and jobs work, you can't exactly have weapon skill combos on the class purely built for the bard job.

    I do like bard but the songs seem a bit 'stuck on' at times. (also if no one already mentioned it during the whole /thau subjob discussion, resonance also increases the range of your songs so you get sanguine and resonance from thau.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wevlum View Post
    I do like bard but the songs seem a bit 'stuck on' at times. (also if no one already mentioned it during the whole /thau subjob discussion, resonance also increases the range of your songs so you get sanguine and resonance from thau.)
    Good info.
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    Gil Witten
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    I hope BRD gets a song that boost ATK and M.ATK.

    Should make everyone happy.
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