I'm going to play the guessing game for SMN fix in 5.1

[Osmond]

I'm placing my bet for SMN that this could fix the job. They need to bring back the effect during DWT/FBT 10% magic dmg dealt..heck give it 5%. I'm still at bit confused on why they removed that in the first place.

[Sequora]

This would be really lazy and wouldn't fix what people currently dislike about the job. Egi assault is terrible.

[MaelleRiou]

All I want is the stupid pets to do the thing I tell them to do when I tell them to do it instead of waiting 8 freaking years to cast Devotion when I want to enter Firebirb Trance.

[WhimsicalPacifist]

1. Maybe Titan's shield won't require a target? So like usable during boss fight transitions that have a massive windup and damage?
2. Titan Shield yields a Ruin 4 charge upon expiration? -- not a massive damage loss for helping out your healers
3. Egi Assault usable mid-cast like they had been during SB? Less clunky
4. Demi's actually are summoned fully awake without any awkward pauses?

[Shurrikhan]

All I want is the stupid pets to do the thing I tell them to do when I tell them to do it instead of waiting 8 freaking years to cast Devotion when I want to enter Firebirb Trance.

This. We already removed Egi as an actual unit, to great contention. So why do we still have the action delay from before, of all things? "Here, let's get rid of pets actually being a thing, changing them into DoTs and ability-shifters only, but purposely avoid making the QoL improvements pet-users have been begging for for the last 6 years to any significant degree."

[Rika007]

Give me back the damage buff during both trances. Have Dreadwyrm trance summon Bahamut just like Firebird trance summons Pheonix. Tie the two egis-assualts together into one with only three charges. Move Devotion to activate off the Summoner and not the egi. Fix the ghosting of Egi and Demi abilities so that they react faster. Make it so Demi Summons do not follow us anymore.


Just those alone will make the class feel far more coherent and fun to play, and would put it back into a good spot. There would still be a lot more needed to be done, the Egi and Aetherflow systems in general just feel dated and feel like it's time for them to be totally scrapped, and instead devote all of the complexity to the Demi-Summons, which have become the real stars of the job; but overall that's something you cover in an expansion. Right now should just be about making the current iteration of the job feel good and coherent to play.

[dinnertime]

Personally I don't want the damage buff on Trances to return or else it'll add another layer of trying to maximize damage by only using Ruin IV or Festers/Painflares for Trance, or something like that.
I think it's why they locked Aetherflow from DwT in SB in the first place, but I can't really remember anymore.

[Taranok]

I'm placing my bet for SMN that this could fix the job. They need to bring back the effect during DWT/FBT 10% magic dmg dealt..heck give it 5%. I'm still at bit confused on why they removed that in the first place.

Because it's a bad mechanic and it stacks with DoTs especially poorly due to snapshotting existing.

[CrimsonGunner]

to me,they need to fix the entire theme and synergy of the kit.

as it stand we have detached parts with unreasonably button cluttering,due to bad designs and unrelated parts.

1.an egi system that has unresponsive commands that we need to wait too long for the pet to react or that they get ghosted which make matters worse cause its tied to ruin IV stacks.

2.a demi system with its own enkindle rather then combine with the enkindle buttton we do have (adding more unnecessary buttons).

3. aetherflow that isn't related to anything other then dots.

4. our egi are there more like a minion rather then truly be part of our kit(they don't contribute much to us or our spells or anyone) and have a ridiculous low dps compare to us(even a lower level healer we lower gear can do more damage )

5.the egi glamour system that lacks the other primals and so far only gives you the ability to change from egi to carbuncle and even that has its flaws

6.we have FBT that summon phoenix right when we used it but with DWT we actually have a skill button to summon bahamut with its own enkindle button(again unnecessary button issue).

i do hope 5.1 will address the most pressing issues SMN has, but as they say rome wasn't build in a day and i fear that if they wont address some of them in 5.1 it will only get dragged and worse as time passes.

[Aomine1992]

Well devotion should come from the SMN anyways that was super dumb cause we essentially have to delay FBT for a 1sec or two cause of devotions timing from the pet and don’t get me started on accidentally starting FBT as soon as devotion goes off which pretty much deletes its effect lol aka ghosting or just accidentally hitting it before you use devotion..

Honestly I’m sure they will do SMN some justice but if history has taught us anything we may get over tuned again and have to be worked on again lol

I have no faith they will fix the Demi summons AI, cause although old Bahamut was better then current Bahamut he still was the center of complaints for a lot of SMNs but SE don’t listen...