Thread: Discussion about the new 5.1 dungeon: The Grand Cosmos

Maybe it's Vauthry's meol packaging plant. :P

Originally Posted by Noitems

Keep in mind that almost all the locations, many of the major plot themes (even the Lightwardens in MSQ) we see in Amaurot are based off Greek names and concepts. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...omages_in_the/

I wouldn't rule out that concept that Amaurot which is the biggest source of the Greek references wouldn't have any in them even if the outer decor is styled in 1920's American.

You have a point, but the color scheme *does* scream Eulmore.

Also, the meol packing plant idea... I mean people "ascended" when turned into sin eaters and where do you ascend but into the sky, aka the "cosmos"?

The Grand Cosmos does sound like the kind of grandiose name that would be given to a place supposedly reserved for "privileged" individuals.

I'm hoping it takes a seriously creepy turn towards the end if it really is where the ascended were being processed into meol because it looks a bit...pristine from initial appearances.

Also didn't the Thancred story from Tales From the Shadows on the Lodestone specifically mention that the dungeons deep under Eulmore where Ryne was imprisoned was actually where those to be 'ascended' and from there turned into meol were actually kept? (it was called not at all ironically 'The Larder' in the story) - the screenshot for the new dungeon though looks far more palatial.

Either way, we'll find out soon enough.

The architecture is unquestionably Eulmoran, and with the same colour scheme too. The sunlight streaming through the windows suggests we're higher up or at least above ground, not exploring the dungeon levels unless we move into them as we progress.

An oddity from Thancred's Tale from the Shadows... it refers to the "streets of Eulmore", when there's certainly no space for streets in the city we see in-game. Perhaps this is a slip, or perhaps there's more to the city. Somewhere. Somehow. The islands don't look big enough, but maybe that's artistic licence.

Originally Posted by Nalien

I'm 90% certain they've reused assets from The Vault here, that gate at the very back end of the hallway in particular is screaming at me. Interesting to see the parallels between Eulmore and Ishgard continue though, if this really is Eulmore. Both are the regions most powerful military, both battled a non-human enemy, both have/had a class divide, and now both have The Vault sitting on top... So much for Eulmore being bizarro Limsa, should we take bets on who'll die at the end of this dungeon now?

During the pre-release speculation I did briefly wonder if we might have been mistaken about Eulmore being Limsa, mostly because the sea level seemed wrong and I didn't think Limsa would have ground space for the shantytown at the base of the rock spires - but regardless of the why, I had the thought that perhaps it might actually be located where Ishgard is, minus the Sea of Clouds so the base of the spire is visible.

Anyway. We got confirmation that it was on Kholusia around that point, so I dropped the thought before I ever mentioned it here. It could have been an early concept for designing it though.

For the in-game setup, it would make sense that refugees from Voeburt might have fled to Eulmore and added elements of their architecture to the structure - along with the Araengites(?) bringing the "Ul'dahn" influences.

Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Also didn't the Thancred story from Tales From the Shadows on the Lodestone specifically mention that the dungeons deep under Eulmore where Ryne was imprisoned was actually where those to be 'ascended' and from there turned into meol were actually kept? (it was called not at all ironically 'The Larder' in the story)

I'm not sure where you're getting that as a name for the location. All I can see in the story is this:

The massive subterranean chamber in which Thancred found himself was said to have been used as a storehouse in one age, and as a safe haven to shelter the people from sin eaters in another. Under the rule of Lord Vauthry, it had been converted into a makeshift gaol and pantry for meol—the substance that served to provide sustenance to the citizens of Eulmore and to secure their loyalty.

While there's certainly something suspicious-and-or-ironic about it being used to store both prisoners and meol, it's not actually named that.

Originally Posted by Alleluia

You have a point, but the color scheme *does* scream Eulmore.

Also, the meol packing plant idea... I mean people "ascended" when turned into sin eaters and where do you ascend but into the sky, aka the "cosmos"?

You know considering how FFXIV has a habit of reusing the same models for certain bosses, I am honestly inclined to say that if the Meol Plant is an idea that the boss will be a Meol variant of the Pudding enemy they added in the game from XIII-2. Since dungeons like Saint Moc HM reused the normal pudding enemy as the boss model for Tokka and The Mudman.

Would make a good amount of sense if the area is located in Eulmore and it does have the light pouring through the windows.

Speaking of was anyone able to find any other of the screenshots? I know they're of the floor and I think they were shown in the PLL but I can't find them anywhere in cropped form.