"New game plus - quests will have no rewards..."

[MikuMitsuko]

I disagree with that. Why would you not want as many players as possible to enjoy the content? There is a large % of players who play Hroths (not as large as other races, but still considerable in the grand scheme). Challenges in-game extend it's life time, wich is why those are in. They are less about player participation but more about having long term player goals.

Why do you feel it would be pointless to give XP? If you feel it gives too much, maybe it can be adjusted? I do not believe that anything will beat PotD or HoH for xp/minute. The MSQ has a lot of traveling involved. If it gives too little you feel it's pointless? Why? See, i think you feel people either play it for the story or for the xp. Can they not do it for both? It doesn't need to be the best XP/minute. Cause people are doing it for more than just the XP, i would hope.

I've already said why playing it for the exp would be pointless. PotD, HoH, dungeons. Play those for exp. They already exist. Leveling is so hilariously easy.

You'll be doing this on a max leveled character anyway. Does your level 80 need exp?
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And as for those asking for rewards for completing NG+ in it's entirety, why? You're literally just doing pre-existing content. It's even level-synced so no, it won't be a challenge. I don't see why every little thing has to have a reward attached to it nowadays....

[Nemmar]

I've already said why playing it for the exp would be pointless. PotD, HoH, dungeons. Play those for exp. They already exist. Leveling is so hilariously easy.

You'll be doing this on a max leveled character anyway. Does your level 80 need exp?
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And as for those asking for rewards for completing NG+ in it's entirety, why? You're literally just doing pre-existing content. It's even level-synced so no, it won't be a challenge. I don't see why every little thing has to have a reward attached to it nowadays....

If it's restricted to level 80, clearly not. xD

I do think you have an 8-80 opinion that something is either for spamming or not, while there not being room for anything in-between. It's not something i agree with, but fair enough.

[MikuMitsuko]

If it's restricted to level 80, clearly not. xD

I do think you have an 8-80 opinion that something is either for spamming or not, while there not being room for anything in-between. It's not something i agree with, but fair enough.

Because people will use it for spamming. It's that simple. Bots, anyone?

[Nemmar]

Because people will use it for spamming. It's that simple. Bots, anyone?

Do you see flocks of bots in WoW or any other major mmo? Do they not have quest rewards? Bots are an issue that squeenix has to solve on their back end. It's not something to be solved through game design.

As you have said, if it's not the best Xp/minute people won't spam it. They will do it for the story and a bit of XP or gil or whatever they would add. They could spam it, but as long as it's not a very profitable option, it's unlikely they would.

[MikuMitsuko]

Do you see flocks of bots in WoW or any other major mmo? Do they not have quest rewards? Bots are an issue that squeenix has to solve on their back end. It's not something to be solved through game design.

As you have said, if it's not the best Xp/minute people won't spam it. They will do it for the story and a bit of XP or gil or whatever they would add. They could spam it, but as long as it's not a very profitable option, it's unlikely they would.

I wasn't aware this was the WoW forum. And who said to remove quest rewards?? This is about NG+. Level 80 content. For characters who don't even NEED exp in the first place. If it wasn't, bots would ruin it anyway.

None of this matters anyway because SE said it NG+ won't have rewards. They are not likely to change their minds.

[Nemmar]

I wasn't aware this was the WoW forum. And who said to remove quest rewards?? This is about NG+. Level 80 content. For characters who don't even NEED exp in the first place. If it wasn't, bots would ruin it anyway.

None of this matters anyway because SE said it NG+ won't have rewards. They are not likely to change their minds.

Huh? No, this is the FFXIV forum, wich is why bots are an issue that needs resolving. That problem doesn't exist on the most popular mmo's. It will not be fixed by game design, so stop arm-chair trying to design the game cause of bots. It has never has fixed it and it never will. It's a tech problem. They need to fix their tech or sell the gold themselves. This is all off-topic honestly. Stop dragging bots into design discussions guys. I know they are frustrating, but gaming design will not stop them. There is always something they can do as long as the program runs. That is what needs to be stopped.

Yes, i know what they announced. Why do people get so personal over someone saying they would like something to be added when it doesn't affect them in the least? I really don't get it. These forums tire me. If one doesn't speak up, nothing will ever change, no. I just don't get why it's so offensive. I am not denying you anything.

I don't get into the male viera thread saying no they can't have it cause they already got female and that's that. I mean, that's pretty terrible. There would be no point to fan feedback if everyone just resigned themselves to accept only what the devs present. They may not change anything, but these forums are for us to leave our feedback, and sometimes, it might change something.
I mean are you saying this on the housing threads too? Housing is fine, the devs have announced what it is and that's that. If you don't like it, it isn't for you. I dunno, i just can't follow that narrative.

But, fair enough. We can agree to disagree.

[MikuMitsuko]

Huh? No, this is the FFXIV forum, wich is why bots are an issue that needs resolving. That problem doesn't exist on the most popular mmo's. It will not be fixed by game design, so stop arm-chair trying to design the game cause of bots. It has never has fixed it and it never will. It's a tech problem. They need to fix their tech or sell the gold themselves. This is all off-topic honestly. Stop dragging bots into design discussions.

Yes, i know what they announced. Why do people get so personal over someone saying they would like something to be added when it doesn't affect them in the least? I really don't get it. These forums tire me. If one doesn't speak up, nothing will ever change, no. I just don't get why it's so offensive. I am not denying you anything.

I don't into the male viera thread saying no they can't have it cause they already got female and that's that. I mean, that's pretty terrible.

You're being oddly defensive. Is it that bad that someone disagrees with you about something so insignificant as NG+ exp? And it's not dragging them into anything when they're relevant lmao

You're the only one acting offended, my dude.