"New game plus - quests will have no rewards..."

[Sathona]

I only want it to give EXP,i find lvling alt jobs from 1 to 50 boring and awful,so id rather replay the story for exp instead but eh
i dont mind replaying ShB/HW so im down for it either way

[ForteNightshade]

Ok...The proof is all over the reactions on this thread. You are purposely ignoring them. There is no substantial amount of people that will use the feature on this thread. There's a group of yes-men trying to talk those of us that are dissatisfied from express our views. That is toxicity. Some will use the feature honestly. But it will be a very select group, because you only have to think about it. If there is no progression in the system it's a system that will compete for attention with systems that actually progress your character, wich is basically the rest of the game. It will therefore see low activity numbers. Sorry if the truth hurts or is too hard to grasp. If you want to pretend that isn't the case go right ahead. Not my business.
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I do love the irony. Now people who fancy this feature and never cared about the EXP gains are just yes-men ignoring the ample pushback despite only the second post, which now boasts 53 likes, saying:

People have been wanting to replay the story without creating alts for ages. Exp or no, new game plus won’t be useless & will make a lot of people happy.

And that's only one post. Meanwhile, your post on that same page as the highest like count from the opposing side with only 18.

Normally, this would be fine. We all are entitled to our opinions. Except... apparently not, according you. Because anyone who dares support this feature without EXP is simply kissing up to SE. If I'm to be honest, you know very well your stance isn't the majority and that bothers you for some reason.

[Bright-Flower]

There are so many story quests I've wanted to redo for the awesome fights. This ain't gonna be useless, many people have wanted this and I see it getting a lot of use.

Yeah, though honestly what I wasn't wasn't really a full on new game +. Just adding solo instance battles to the journal thing we rewatch cutscenes from would have made me happy.

[Sesera]

I wonder if there were any feature you'd like to have hoping to use it in a way but you can't use it as expected....

Would you think of me as toxic or something if you were asking for a way to use it at your own liking and then I come and say "Nah bro the feature is not meant for you,deal with it!"?

[dragonkyn20]

Honestly all i have heard in this thread are excuses. The system would be much better if it had Xp rewards. If you don't agree, your deal. But let other people express that in peace. We don't need a fan club in our face when we want something in the game to be better.

"Let other people express that in peace."

Then maybe you should practice what you preach instead of getting antsy over a difference of opinion.

[Metalwrath]

I wonder if there were any feature you'd like to have hoping to use it in a way but you can't use it as expected....

Would you think of me as toxic or something if you were asking for a way to use it at your own liking and then I come and say "Nah bro the feature is not meant for you,deal with it!"?

There's a fine line between asking and saying .Content trash no xp.No xp devs ignored what all the players.Nobody will play content etc.
At the end of the day optional content is optional content and nothing more.
There's been a trend over the last 2 years of people trashing content because it doesnt give them what they personally want and their way of justifying it is by claiming majority of the community wants the same thing as them without any strong evidence to back their claims.
Some content i dont like and i dont do.So yeah i deal with it.If i complained about content designed for others i wouldnt consider it being toxic if someone told me to deal with it as id be in the wrong if i was crying over optional content.At the end of the day it's a game and some people need to stop treating it like it's some kind of job where we need to demand se to give us rewards to do this optional 'work' for them.

[ForteNightshade]

I wonder if there were any feature you'd like to have hoping to use it in a way but you can't use it as expected....

Would you think of me as toxic or something if you were asking for a way to use it at your own liking and then I come and say "Nah bro the feature is not meant for you,deal with it!"?

"I wish they added EXP to New Game+ so it'd give me more motivation to redo the story."
"What a useless, waste of resources. Hardly anyone will use NG+ cause what's even the point without EXP?"

Notice the difference?

[TaleraRistain]

I've been lurking this thread for awhile now so I feel like now's a good time to ask...

Where were those "we want rewards with NG+" people whenever a thread popped up about requesting NG+? Been active on these forums, or more specifically, the general discussion subforum and while there have been--at least over the course of three years (and possibly even before I posted actively)--hundreds of posts requesting for NG+, can't say "rewards" were also at the top of that list.

Now they come out of the woodwork, feeling so jilted that a piece of content is not strapped with material gain. Where was all this disappointement of lack of material gain when Performance was added? And Gpose? pretty much anything in the game that wasn't strapped with material rewards?

Don't get me wrong: if you would like SE to add rewards to the NG+, please, feel free to do so. I will even personally add my support to it. But for the love of the Twelve, enough with the indignation, disappointment and faux outrage. You honestly cannot point the finger at this company for basically not seeing even a modicum of evidence that people wanted rewards stacked with NG+ en masse.

I know requesting things in sheer simplicity is an ancient relic of a lost age and now we have to weaponize our emotion cannons with outrage shells but give it a rest and lower it, for crying out loud.

I think part of it may be what they're calling it. New Game+ in any other game comes with re-leveling. It's possible people took it as a given that it would have exp rewards at least, since that's a core concept of NG+ in nearly any other game.

[Seraph522]

I think part of it may be what they're calling it. New Game+ in any other game comes with re-leveling. It's possible people took it as a given that it would have exp rewards at least, since that's a core concept of NG+ in nearly any other game.

I think that's a bit of a misconception, to be honest. By and large, NG+ means "replay the game but with certain bonuses" (at least in single player games; I'm not an MMO vet, so I'm not sure if this is common in this genre or if NG+ is even a thing in most other MMOs), which can vary wildly from game to game. Some games require you to level up all over again - Persona 5, for example, does this - but others carry over levels, like Persona 3, or automatically start you at a high level, like FFXII's updated versions (IZJS, Zodiac Age). Sometimes gear is carried over, sometimes it isn't. Generally, something is carried over, or some form of bonus is granted on the subsequent playthrough, but what that is by and large is up to the developers.

[Metalwrath]

I think that's a bit of a misconception, to be honest. By and large, NG+ means "replay the game but with certain bonuses" (at least in single player games; I'm not an MMO vet, so I'm not sure if this is common in this genre or if NG+ is even a thing in most other MMOs), which can vary wildly from game to game. Some games require you to level up all over again - Persona 5, for example, does this - but others carry over levels, like Persona 3, or automatically start you at a high level, like FFXII's updated versions (IZJS, Zodiac Age). Sometimes gear is carried over, sometimes it isn't. Generally, something is carried over, or some form of bonus is granted on the subsequent playthrough, but what that is by and large is up to the developers.

As far as what i recall the usual main selling point of new game plus isnt the leveling bonus but more the harder difficulty.It originally comes from harder difficulty settings in game for those who cleared on normal etc.