"New game plus - quests will have no rewards..."

[Enla]

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It's not as you imagined but what you imagined was never even hinted at in the first place. At no point did the developer team say they were going to add exp to this feature, that and the idea that it'd be a chance to completely wipe the slate clean were community speculation based on hype, and while I can definitely sympathize with your expectations not being fulfilled at the end of the day the development team is under no onus to meet them.

As for using other games as an example, there are games that do things almost identical to what FFXIV is trying to implement that don't give any exp either. LoTRO comes to mind where you can replay almost any story quest in a zone via a special fountain, but you're not going to get any rewards for it. It's there just so you can enjoy the story again, which given how well written that MMO's original story quests are is a boon. Not everything needs a carrot.

[linay]

Why are people asking for NG+ to give exp when they also try to say people don't like the story and want to skip it?

That would actually be another reason why NG+ shouldn't offer exp so that no one should ever feel compelled to do it just to level a character if they don't like the story anyway. This is purely for people who enjoy the story.

[ForteNightshade]

No, you're misinterpreting what I said. If you have a job who hasn't done the MSQs, you get exp. Obviously, that means that you get exp from each MSQ one time. One. That's once. Not Twice. Once. Per job.

No exploit. There is no exploit that way.

Get it?

Yes. And if you read my response, you'd see why that may be an issue. Allowing it per job still makes NG+ the most efficient level grind by a mile because you can skip every cut scene and likely will still have access to flying and teleports. Which means less people queuing for other content.

Iscah covered why this isn't feasible from a technical point of view. What it all boils down to is the feature was never intended for leveling but for those who simply want to experience the story again without having to grind out an alt or buy a skip potion, especially if they only want to redo Shadowbringers. If this doesn't appeal to you. Cool. Pretend it doesn't exist. We have more than enough leveling options, and will be getting yet another when Deep Dungeon 3.0 drops.

[Naoki34]

It may have been lost in translation, but does this purely mean that there will be no gil and item rewards (which is understandable) but still giving exp so we have an alternative to POTD and HOH for leveling alt jobs - or does this mean: no rewards att all and subsequently that new game plus is a completely useless feature?

The reward is to be able to relive my best parts of the MSQ (HW / SB / ShB) without having to redo ARR which is a great moment of suffering.
The log isn't enough, it is very fragmented, relive the MSQ without the worry of leveling is priceless.

Reliving the most memorable fighting of the MSQ like the one against Raubahn, is priceless.

This newgame+ offered by Yoshi-P & SE is for the players to those who have asked during a long time ago to be able to relive the MSQ without having to do a boring leveling.
You are not the target audience of this feature.

[Jybril]

You all might as well forget about talking to Nemmar.
We're all just going around circles with him. He is the only one here
vehemently upset about this. Maybe if you make a topic or thread
and have them consider the thought instead of shooting every other
person on there here thread, maybe they'll take the EXP thing consideration.
It really isn't that serious my friend lol. It's just nothing to get this
worked up over with.

[Nemmar]

You all might as well forget about talking to Nemmar.
We're all just going around circles with him. He is the only one here
vehemently upset about this. Maybe if you make a topic or thread
and have them consider the thought instead of shooting every other
person on there here thread, maybe they'll take the EXP thing consideration.
It really isn't that serious my friend lol. It's just nothing to get this
worked up over with.

Circles? Funny. All you do is try to attack me personally rather than talk about the issue or why it shouldn't have XP or how you rudely say i am somehow angry rather than disappointed cause i dared to not worship all things. Like Square enix told us from the start how the feature would be implemented or that we naturally should have expected it to be the minimal effort implementation. I am not interested in your harassment thus you go in circles, yes. Always the same 4-5 attacking everyone who dares express they would have liked the feature to have at least given XP and unable to say why it shouldn't at least have that.

So yes, by all means, do stop replying to me if that's all you got to say. Not to mention constantly misrepresenting what others have said. Like you are the only ones who care about the story and the system cannot possibly be edited to satisfy a larger number of players. So, yes, let's hope they take it into consideration. But even if not, it was still legitimate of me and other to express their disappointment. You don't get to tell us off for that.

[hynaku]

It just be another worthless add on that I will never use. If want see old quest I would re watch them at the inn. If get nothing for doing the quests why even waste your time. How about they put there funds and add more end game content and more hair styles for the new races. They could also used funds for new game plus for a new healer class. Just like the trust system that I will never use. All ready could run dungeons with my squadron.

[Moonfish]

It just be another worthless add on that I will never use. If want see old quest I would re watch them at the inn. If get nothing for doing the quests why even waste your time.

Then you are not the target audience. I honestly don’t get why people are not understanding this. Not everything in game is meant to appeal to everyone and that’s ok.

[Iscah]

It just be another worthless add on that I will never use. If want see old quest I would re watch them at the inn. If get nothing for doing the quests why even waste your time.

Because - as has been well covered at this point - some of us see the story as its own reward. Or why do anything you enjoy more than once? Would you need a reward for watching a favourite film again?

And there is a lot more to the game's story than what can be reviewed at the inn. The cutscene viewer is a highlights reel, not the entire story with all the details.

[HyoMinPark]

It just be another worthless add on that I will never use. If want see old quest I would re watch them at the inn. If get nothing for doing the quests why even waste your time. How about they put there funds and add more end game content and more hair styles for the new races. They could also used funds for new game plus for a new healer class. Just like the trust system that I will never use. All ready could run dungeons with my squadron.

You act as if NG+ is going to cut into one of the 6.0 jobs. That’s highly unlikely to be the case. Personally, I don’t think this took nearly as much resources as people are complaining about: at most, they needed to program ways to initiate the feature, and code a method of unflagging and reflagging quests during. The large bulk of the material involved in NG+ has already existed (i.e., the MSQ is already an existing asset).

As for Trusts versus Squadrons: you do know that Squadrons can’t do the ShB dungeons but the Trusts can, right? And Trusts can’t do pre-ShB, but Squadrons can do ARR/HW. That’s the different there.