Thread: BLU MAGE...PATCH 5.1...HMMMMMM?

Originally Posted by HarryTipper

I know i posted this in another BLU thread already, but since it's relevant again...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...our-support%21

Reminder this thread exists, not like SE actually cares.

It's funny, (well, not really) the devs didn't want to hear any criticism about BLU until they rolled-out 5.1, as if it was some big adjustment that would change people's unfavorable opinions on BLU, when most of us already knew it'd probably just be more spells (useless or otherwise), an increased level cap to include HW dungeons/trials and more Carnival gimmick trials. The Bluemage DF is nice, I guess? But not only is it a little too late but unless they give certain perks to using it aside tomestones (increased/guaranteed learn rate?), it still seems inferior to having people power you through the dungeon/fights.

Unless they have something new (and worthwhile) about BLU in the next Live Letter about 5.1, it's pretty obvious they're just double-downing on the low-effort limited job out of stubbornness despite the massive negative feedback.

I just don't understand the restrictions. If we're talking purely in terms of balance, shouldn't they have just prevented it from going into Savage/Ultimate (and possibly extremes, if you can make a case for that)?

I honestly can't remember a time someone complained about a job being too busted in dungeons, of all places.

Originally Posted by Auryan

Interesting information for an unverified census. Though I do have some questions and follow-up questions.
First one. The data goes back to last February, correct? A month or so after BLU was added in 4.5.1. Does the data take into account late adopters? Why not do a tally of the number of unlocked and completed BLUs after two months+ instead of barely a month?

Second question. What are the criteria for something to be considered "successful"? 100% adoption and completion rates? That's crazy. 80%? I don't think so. Does it have to compete completion wise with expansion jobs like SAM and RDM? Or given its status as side activity will have to be compared to other content like GS/Eureka/DoH/DoL? Apples and apples, and some such.

Third question. You touched on Savage. Something less than 10% of the entire base participates, let alone completes. By your conclusion regarding BLU, shouldn't they then focus on content that is more popular than something as niche and "poor performing" as Savage?

The data only tells me so much, but I'm missing context to put it all into perspective. And without that I'm only expressing my preconceived biases. And that just won't do.

I imagine he just didn't think it was important enough to follow up on after Blue Mage released, especially given how the reception went. I don't imagine those numbers would climb by any significant margin within a month or two.

It depends on the content. Savage, for example, is specifically aimed at a smaller demographic who a reasonable challenge. Bear in mind, because it shares development resources with Normal mode, it's essentially a two-for-one deal. Blue Mage, on the other hand, was intended for the casual playerbase, and released at a time where there was a massive content lull. The fact it did so poorly when there was very little happening as we wanted for Shadowbringer speaks volumes.

Like I said, context is important. Savage isn't aimed at the wider playerbase.