Thread: BLU MAGE...PATCH 5.1...HMMMMMM?

Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Hilariously, according to Lucky Bancho's unofficial census only half of the active character pool bothered to unlock it. And not even half of them reached 50. It's actually quite remarkable how badly Blue Mage performed.

From this we can presume that one of 2 things should happen:

1. Blue Mage sees a re-work into a normal and functional job.

Or

2. Blue Mage is straight up removed from the game.

As much as it pains me to say it, 2 seems more likely to happen than 1. What will probably actually happen is that the dev team will see no one is playing it so they'll just stop doing stuff for it. I mean, they never even increased the action drop rates since Blue Mage launched if that gives anyone any idea of how half-assed the idea of Limited Job(s) even is.

Its one thing to appreciate something taking a different angle but its another when the voice for change has been consistently given and ignored.

At this point, I don't know how much more loud and clear we can tell them what we want

Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman

From this we can presume that one of 2 things should happen:

1. Blue Mage sees a re-work into a normal and functional job.

Or

2. Blue Mage is straight up removed from the game.

As much as it pains me to say it, 2 seems more likely to happen than 1. What will probably actually happen is that the dev team will see no one is playing it so they'll just stop doing stuff for it. I mean, they never even increased the action drop rates since Blue Mage launched if that gives anyone any idea of how half-assed the idea of Limited Job(s) even is.

Its one thing to appreciate something taking a different angle but its another when the voice for change has been consistently given and ignored.

I don't think is going to be removed at any point. Probably SE is going to finish whatever they were working on and if the numbers keep being so bad BLU will be discontinued.

Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Hilariously, according to Lucky Bancho's unofficial census only half of the active character pool bothered to unlock it. And not even half of them reached 50. It's actually quite remarkable how badly Blue Mage performed.



Just to put this into perspective. More characters on Aether (before the DC split) cleared Savage than characters on JP leveled Blue Mage to 50.

SE:



Seriously though, those numbers are quite a statement if they are indeed accurate.

Oh look, significant resources pissed away because SE failed to realize nobody wanted a limited job and they're dumb enough to put in content for this instead of scrapping it entirely to rework it to a full job in 6.0/7.0. Or abandoning it completely.

Fun

Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Hilariously, according to Lucky Bancho's unofficial census only half of the active character pool bothered to unlock it. And not even half of them reached 50. It's actually quite remarkable how badly Blue Mage performed.



Just to put this into perspective. More characters on Aether (before the DC split) cleared Savage than characters on JP leveled Blue Mage to 50.

Interesting information for an unverified census. Though I do have some questions and follow-up questions.
First one. The data goes back to last February, correct? A month or so after BLU was added in 4.5.1. Does the data take into account late adopters? Why not do a tally of the number of unlocked and completed BLUs after two months+ instead of barely a month?

Second question. What are the criteria for something to be considered "successful"? 100% adoption and completion rates? That's crazy. 80%? I don't think so. Does it have to compete completion wise with expansion jobs like SAM and RDM? Or given its status as side activity will have to be compared to other content like GS/Eureka/DoH/DoL? Apples and apples, and some such.

Third question. You touched on Savage. Something less than 10% of the entire base participates, let alone completes. By your conclusion regarding BLU, shouldn't they then focus on content that is more popular than something as niche and "poor performing" as Savage?

The data only tells me so much, but I'm missing context to put it all into perspective. And without that I'm only expressing my preconceived biases. And that just won't do.

Originally Posted by Auryan

Interesting information for an unverified census. Though I do have some questions and follow-up questions.
First one. The data goes back to last February, correct? A month or so after BLU was added in 4.5.1. Does the data take into account late adopters? Why not do a tally of the number of unlocked and completed BLUs after two months+ instead of barely a month?

Second question. What are the criteria for something to be considered "successful"? 100% adoption and completion rates? That's crazy. 80%? I don't think so. Does it have to compete completion wise with expansion jobs like SAM and RDM? Or given its status as side activity will have to be compared to other content like GS/Eureka/DoH/DoL? Apples and apples, and some such.

Third question. You touched on Savage. Something less than 10% of the entire base participates, let alone completes. By your conclusion regarding BLU, shouldn't they then focus on content that is more popular than something as niche and "poor performing" as Savage?

The data only tells me so much, but I'm missing context to put it all into perspective. And without that I'm only expressing my preconceived biases. And that just won't do.

I will say something about savage and ultimate: is recycled content from normal mode and old fights. I know there are a few differences here and there but I don't think can be compared, mainly because I'm pretty sure BLU was aimed to the general public while savage/ultimate is aimed to a very specific demographic.

Originally Posted by Shougun

More related news I'm curious if SE's plans for blue mage have shifted at all since release, or if it's full steam ahead on schedule. Without having the ability to know what the new skills and rewards are I can't say for sure but I'm concerned they're not even vaguely interested in feedback or reception of the job from outside of Japan.

SE really doesn't follow a whole lot of feedback from US or EU forums and considering Japanese players tend to express their negative opinions much less than us, for them it looked like it was a huge success while maybe in reality they didn't like it.

At least I think so.