Thread: BLU MAGE...PATCH 5.1...HMMMMMM?

Originally Posted by Vahlnir

SE:

That the coffee mug changes colors, eyes lose fire reflection, door seems to go missing, and the smoke goes an opposite direction..... I can't. . lol.

More related news I'm curious if SE's plans for blue mage have shifted at all since release, or if it's full steam ahead on schedule. Without having the ability to know what the new skills and rewards are I can't say for sure but I'm concerned they're not even vaguely interested in feedback or reception of the job lol.

Even iirc they were like "most people love blue mage" last time we heard them talk about perception of the job (which was a while ago)- if that's true I wonder how they got that info since most of what I see on the social media isn't unadulterated love, but perhaps that is the natural nature of social media.

Originally Posted by Shougun

That the coffee mug changes colors, eyes lose fire reflection, door seems to go missing, and the smoke goes an opposite direction.....

It's a truly chaotic scene.

Originally Posted by Auryan

Interesting information for an unverified census. Though I do have some questions and follow-up questions.
First one. The data goes back to last February, correct? A month or so after BLU was added in 4.5.1. Does the data take into account late adopters? Why not do a tally of the number of unlocked and completed BLUs after two months+ instead of barely a month?

Second question. What are the criteria for something to be considered "successful"? 100% adoption and completion rates? That's crazy. 80%? I don't think so. Does it have to compete completion wise with expansion jobs like SAM and RDM? Or given its status as side activity will have to be compared to other content like GS/Eureka/DoH/DoL? Apples and apples, and some such.

Third question. You touched on Savage. Something less than 10% of the entire base participates, let alone completes. By your conclusion regarding BLU, shouldn't they then focus on content that is more popular than something as niche and "poor performing" as Savage?

The data only tells me so much, but I'm missing context to put it all into perspective. And without that I'm only expressing my preconceived biases. And that just won't do.

I imagine he just didn't think it was important enough to follow up on after Blue Mage released, especially given how the reception went. I don't imagine those numbers would climb by any significant margin within a month or two.

It depends on the content. Savage, for example, is specifically aimed at a smaller demographic who a reasonable challenge. Bear in mind, because it shares development resources with Normal mode, it's essentially a two-for-one deal. Blue Mage, on the other hand, was intended for the casual playerbase, and released at a time where there was a massive content lull. The fact it did so poorly when there was very little happening as we wanted for Shadowbringer speaks volumes.

Like I said, context is important. Savage isn't aimed at the wider playerbase.

Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

I imagine he just didn't think it was important enough to follow up on after Blue Mage released, especially given how the reception went. I don't imagine those numbers would climb by any significant margin within a month or two.

It depends on the content. Savage, for example, is specifically aimed at a smaller demographic who a reasonable challenge. Bear in mind, because it shares development resources with Normal mode, it's essentially a two-for-one deal. Blue Mage, on the other hand, was intended for the casual playerbase, and released at a time where there was a massive content lull. The fact it did so poorly when there was very little happening as we wanted for Shadowbringer speaks volumes.

Like I said, context is important. Savage isn't aimed at the wider playerbase.

Given what reception? From whom? The forum? Reddit? They only represent themselves and not the player base as a whole. Of course you should take into account people who pick up content at a later date. I mean it happens for Savage and Eureka for example. Why not BLU?

Yes, it depends on the content. Not all content are meant to appeal to everyone. I do take an issue on how you're creating false categories to arbitrarily split BLU and Savage. You can just as easily call Savage (and any content for that matter) as "something to do" when during a content drought. I remember hearing that criticism towards Eureka too. Huh, it's funny that BLU and Eureka can be called as disposable content, but not Savage or Ultimate. I'm guessing something to do with 'niches', right?

What do you mean that Savage isn't aimed at the general playerbase? They have tried for a while to get more people to do it, and not just the hardcore few. With Ultimate out, they have been trying to make it even more accessible for the casual player. I can't tell you if that's working, since I don't have the numbers. But at least I'm not jumping the gun and calling the attempt a failure and encouraging SE to abandon ship and focus on more popular things that I like.

The fact is that despite fulfilling a niche, Savage and Ultimate are still done by a select few, despite SE trying to make it appealing to a wider audience, yet you're not calling that a failure and waste of time and development. You're even rationalizing it by mentioning how relatively cheap it is to develop Savage/Ultimate, while not giving BLU the same benefit (BLU learns skills that are already in-game, borrows gear from casters, no weapon stats, no need for balance, etc). Why do you suppose that is?

I won't play BLU anymore until they increase at least Skill Learning Rate, it's abusive low right now. The job is already useless and don't give any motivation to play with, because not even Squadrons you can register without a pre made party, and then you must waste hours trying to learn some skill.