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  1. #211
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    Zangetsu's Avatar
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    Kory Zangetsu
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    Is it fair though that mages can gear swap mid battle no problem but mele can't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetsu View Post
    Is it fair though that mages can gear swap mid battle no problem but mele can't?
    No.

    They should stop mages from swapping gear.
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  3. #213
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Already gave multiple points.



    Like calling the people who didn't like it in FFXI unskilled? Maybe you should re-read your own posts.



    The irony here is tangible.



    They were. They also failed, so they booted Tanaka and brought in someone who also has that same vision of not producing an atmosphere that promotes elitism.



    Nobody has ever said that. That's something you just pulled out of your butt right now. How about making some logical points?



    They are bad and you were give multiple objective reasons. You threw them all out in favor of whatever personal biases you had for gear swapping, like "if you were even remotely decent in XI, gear swapping shouldn't have been a problem for you."
    Well said.

    In addition, knowing how to write macros for each actions you are going to perform doesn't make you good. There's plenty of template out there that you can copy. On the other hand, knowing how to choose the set of gear that you are going to enter the battle with that will not only caters toward your play style and counter the mechanisms of the fight takes real thinking.

    No gear swapping vs. Gear swapping is like Quality vs. Quantity. Simply throwing 50 pieces of gear at the boss so every single one of your action is maximized isn't going to make you win the fight if you insist on standing in fire so you can maximize your dps time, and it definitely doesn't make you a better player. One example would be the WoW talent system, the majority of the players simply go on armory and find someone from a top end guild or find a talent build on a forum and copy/paste their talent trees. They have no understandings of the logic and reasoning behind why each talent is picked, and a lot of the times situational talents were picked by top end players to cater towards a specific strategy, yet people who copy/paste will copy the talent without thinking does this particular skill works for the strategy that my guild is using for this boss. The good players in this example think before making a decision when talent trees are locked once you enter the fight (a restricted environment), and that's quality. I don't see them demanding talents can be switched on the fly in mid battle (an unrestricted environment) in the name of that makes them a better player.

    Gear swapping does not make you a better player, it just means you are too lazy to think carefully when you choose your gear before entering a battle.
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    Last edited by KyrsIsley; 03-23-2012 at 11:41 AM.

  4. #214
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    go back and play FF XI please those who agree with changing gears for ws or in battle
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    Justin Beiber
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlesis View Post
    go back and play FF XI please those who agree with changing gears for ws or in battle
    Take it back to before WotG, revert the level cap, don't ever conceive of Abyssea, and maybe a lot of us would, tbh. Oh, and give it XIV's graphics.

    No but seriously, just because you didn't like something does not make it wrong; no more than me liking something makes it right. So seriously, everyone stop dropping the "if you didn't like..." "If you like..." "all the people that don't like..." etc. posts.

    I want my 5 minutes back :/
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  6. #216
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    As the title implies, I'm curious to see everyone's opinion of the introduction of this. Gear Swapping macros were common in XI, and with the recent implementation of JSE in XIV, I think its only appropriate that something similar is allowed to be done.

    imo Active/Passive Mode is a vestige of Tanaka's FFXIV, and should probably be done away with, but that's besides the point.

    Some of these AF pieces are... lacking. However, they have some unique perks that are only needed from time to time (ie, Choral Shirt's enhanced ballads). Nothing is stopping us from putting our weapon away, and then switching, and then switching back, but it's just annoying to have to deal with that.


    Thoughts?
    Because everyone knows there is more than enough time to take off your pants and put on some different pants in a real fight...DUMB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NadienKirisame View Post
    The question is now... are they ignorant because they do not have the same opinion as you? or is it really that they lack the knowledge and information about the subject?

    It seems some do have the knowledge and understand the concept of gear swapping and yet still do not wish to have it here... I am one of those people... as I think it is a rather silly/stupid concept to have in any game with armor. Unless of course whenever you swap gear in or out of combat your character does some type of "Magical Girl" transformation... then it would fit a bit better. That doesn't happen so I'll go with no thanks...

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
    Pfft... we MUST have magical girl transformations! Revolutionary Girl Utena, GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Obligatory Video Time - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBMBbf6mLJs
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    Last edited by Dragon; 03-23-2012 at 02:31 PM.

  8. #218
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    The players have spoken!

    nty, OP
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    Gear swapping was an abuse of game mechanics. It was not originally intended to be the way the game was played in XI and, thankfully, it is never going to happen in XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Gear swapping was an abuse of game mechanics. It was not originally intended to be the way the game was played in XI and, thankfully, it is never going to happen in XIV.
    If it really was an abuse of game mechanics, then why did the dev team exacerbate the issue even more by releasing gear sets no one would ever wear otherwise due to their counterintuitive stats (Hecatomb being a prime example)?
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