Allowing Gear Change in Active Mode

[Isaaru]

we have reason to believe it will still be there. after all, we've had characters flashing in 2 consecutive MMOs from SE, so there is reason to believe the 2.0 client will not be any different in that regard.

They are tailoring the engine specifically for FFXIV... enough said.

Which is another incorrect assumption. I run a fairly hardcore LS on Fabul.

I didn't see any Moogle kills, AV clears or CC clears on your lodestone page. If your LS was "fairly" hardcore you would have completed it already.

again the "all of it" option is not a hard decision when it's available.

I still don't see an issue with #4.

lets hope that we never have to find out with the 2.0 engine

I hope we do because it is a great system that adds a dynamic aspect to battle while also promoting more content.

You are wrong, I hated gear swap macros in XI also.

I am correct all you do is make a WS macro and a gear macro separate. Then you use them in the proper order as fast as possible and it works in a far faster pace than 1 second.

[Isaaru]

Acquiring more items? Not an issue.

Dumb macros, dumb mechanic, elitism, obtuse mechanic, and realistically speaking zero option in gear choice? That is an issue.

1. It is already optimal to use macros in this game, I don't see your point.
2. I fail to understand how the mechanic is dumb when it offers so much.
3. Elitism will exist whether gear swapping does or not.
4. how is the mechanic obtuse?
5. If you're trying to optimize you character now you have zero option in gear choice. There is and always will be a predefined optimal setup for every class/job.

[Nekirr]

They are tailoring the engine specifically for FFXIV... enough said.




I didn't see any Moogle kills, AV clears or CC clears on your lodestone page. If your LS was "fairly" hardcore you would have completed it already.




I still don't see an issue with #4.



I hope we do because it is a great system that adds a dynamic aspect to battle while also promoting more content.




I am correct all you do is make a WS macro and a gear macro separate. Then you use them in the proper order as fast as possible and it works in a far faster pace than 1 second.

Honestly, I don't see a point in arguing with this person anymore after they clearly proved to me that they don't know anything about how gear swapping in ffxi worked when they said you needed to wait 1 second.

If people have a problem playing with "elitist" players(which I still don't see how this is used as a bad term to describe people who like to play to the best of their ability), then don't play with them.

And someone said that it would make it so that there is no originality in gear choices... Whether there is or isn't gear swapping, there will be a best gear set for each certain battle.

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[Isaaru]

Honestly, I don't see a point in arguing with this person anymore after they clearly proved to me that they don't know anything about how gear swapping in ffxi worked when they said you needed to wait 1 second.

If people have a problem playing with "elitist" players(which I still don't see how this is used as a bad term to describe people who like to play to the best of their ability), then don't play with them.

And someone said that it would make it so that there is no originality in gear choices... Whether there is or isn't gear swapping, there will be a best gear set for each certain battle.

Exactly, I'm all for gear swapping, SE! As longs as your new engine fixes certain issues which currently make it a hassle.

The funny thing is though I already use gear swapping on my BLM. I switch between different chokers midfight depending on the spell I am using lol

[NarikoStar]

Exactly, I'm all for gear swapping, SE! As longs as your new engine fixes certain issues which currently make it a hassle.

The funny thing is though I already use gear swapping on my BLM. I switch between different chokers midfight depending on the spell I am using lol

word. I too have started doing this post patch for my THM/BLM

[Dargoth_Draconia]

As the title implies, I'm curious to see everyone's opinion of the introduction of this. Gear Swapping macros were common in XI, and with the recent implementation of JSE in XIV, I think its only appropriate that something similar is allowed to be done.

imo Active/Passive Mode is a vestige of Tanaka's FFXIV, and should probably be done away with, but that's besides the point.

Some of these AF pieces are... lacking. However, they have some unique perks that are only needed from time to time (ie, Choral Shirt's enhanced ballads). Nothing is stopping us from putting our weapon away, and then switching, and then switching back, but it's just annoying to have to deal with that.


Thoughts?

Go back and play FFXI if you want this. It does not belong in this game and I vehemently hope it never plaques this game. It was a terrible thing you had to deal with in FFXI and noone should have to suffer that again.

[indira]

hell NO to gear swaps.

that extra .000012 damage aint worth it.

too many equip set i will need to have on me
death from missing a cure from blinking
it's dumb really would you change your clothes in the middle of a fight?

[Arcell]

Wut? A system in a game is indeed meant to be used, so yes, not using it is being gimp (or not playing at all. "I'm playing a FPS and I don't want to shoot!")

That's a flimsy comparison. In an FPS the main means of interacting with the world is shooting. In an MMO the main means of interacting with the world is not gear swapping. The game is not designed around the use of such a system, if it was it would already be in place. However even though it would be "optional", most of the community would likely not feel this way.

[Wolfie]

1. It is already optimal to use macros in this game, I don't see your point.

Gear swap macros are dumb.

2. I fail to understand how the mechanic is dumb when it offers so much.

What does it offer, besides itself as a mechanic?

3. Elitism will exist whether gear swapping does or not.

It promotes MORE elitism than normal. That is never a good thing.

4. how is the mechanic obtuse?

Because it naturally is? It's not difficult for you or I to understand how it works or why it's a necessary thing because we've already used it in FFXI.

5. If you're trying to optimize you character now you have zero option in gear choice. There is and always will be a predefined optimal setup for every class/job.

Those exact same set ups are also present with in-combat gear swapping. Cookie cutter builds are unavoidable. Except unlike now, where you have to make a conscious decision to bring appropriate gear to an encounter, to remember to equip it before the encounter, or to do min-maxing with whatever gear you do have for the best set up... gear swapping makes for the simplest non-choice of them all: bring everything, because you can just swap it in whenever you want and there is no drawback to anything.