Allowing Gear Change in Active Mode

[Isaaru]

that problems that it creates are manyfold:
1. inventory space issues
2. characters flashing
3. it becomes the norm and people who don't want to do it are "gimped"
4. it's a bad design choice, the reason it was in XI was because of poor stats on gear (a good design choice would be to force players to think about the best gear for their style of play PRIOR to starting battle.)
5. it slows down the pace of battle

1. Correct.
2. We do not know if there will be character flashing with the new engine.
3. This would only restrict you from playing with the "hardcore" players, which I'm sure you wouldn't be playing with anyways since you think character flashing is a major issue.
4. Or you can think of the optimal sets PRIOR to starting battle with more than 1 set of equipment.
5. It only slows the pace of battle with the current engine. With the new engine I highly doubt there will be such horrid lag when changing gear and it makes battle pace faster as a matter of fact due to optimizing your characters damage output.

So... the only problem is inventory space. Cool.

EDIT: Molly you in no way have to wait a full second between switching gear and using a weapon skill in FFXI. You were just doing macros the wrong way and that was you're own fault. Not the system's.

[Genz]

1. inventory space issues
2. characters flashing

Game programing is at fault here, not the system itself.

3. it becomes the norm and people who don't want to do it are "gimped"

Wut? A system in a game is indeed meant to be used, so yes, not using it is being gimp (or not playing at all. "I'm playing a FPS and I don't want to shoot!")

a good design choice would be to force players to think about the best gear for their style of play PRIOR to starting battle.

The good design choice is indeed to have things that have to be decided before battle, and things that can be changed during battle. Thanksfully, that's what already exist in every RPG (FFXI included. Stuff isn't the only thing determining your strategy)

PS : I don't give a damn about having gear swap in FFXIV or not

[NarikoStar]

1. Correct.
2. We do not know if there will be character flashing with the new engine.
3. This would only restrict you from playing with the "hardcore" players, which I'm sure you wouldn't be playing with anyways since you think character flashing is a major issue.
4. Or you can think of the optimal sets PRIOR to starting battle with more than 1 set of equipment.
5. It only slows the pace of battle with the current engine. With the new engine I highly doubt there will be such horrid lag when changing gear and it makes battle pace faster as a matter of fact due to optimizing your characters damage output.

So... the only problem is inventory space. Cool.

EDIT: Molly you in no way have to wait a full second between switching gear and using a weapon skill in FFXI. You were just doing macros the wrong way and that was you're own fault. Not the system's.

Mannequin system /o/

Space issue solved yay~

[Wolfie]

3. This would only restrict you from playing with the "hardcore" players, which I'm sure you wouldn't be playing with anyways since you think character flashing is a major issue.

False, everyone is the "hardcore". When top notch players pick up on doing a thing, the less skilled players will as well in an attempt to step up their game, and it becomes the standard way of playing the game.

[Molly_Millions]

1. Correct.

glad we can agree on that

2. We do not know if there will be character flashing with the new engine.

we have reason to believe it will still be there. after all, we've had characters flashing in 2 consecutive MMOs from SE, so there is reason to believe the 2.0 client will not be any different in that regard.

3. This would only restrict you from playing with the "hardcore" players, which I'm sure you wouldn't be playing with anyways since you think character flashing is a major issue.

Which is another incorrect assumption. I run a fairly hardcore LS on Fabul.

4. Or you can think of the optimal sets PRIOR to starting battle with more than 1 set of equipment.

again the "all of it" option is not a hard decision when it's available.

5. It only slows the pace of battle with the current engine. With the new engine I highly doubt there will be such horrid lag when changing gear and it makes battle pace faster as a matter of fact due to optimizing your characters damage output.

lets hope that we never have to find out with the 2.0 engine

EDIT: Molly you in no way have to wait a full second between switching gear and using a weapon skill in FFXI. You were just doing macros the wrong way and that was you're own fault. Not the system's.

You are wrong, I hated gear swap macros in XI also.

[Isaaru]

False, everyone is the "hardcore". When top notch players pick up on doing a thing, the less skilled players will as well in an attempt to step up their game, and it becomes the standard way of playing the game.

I still don't see the issue with it becoming the norm. It would require you to play the game more to obtain more items. Is that an issue? I think not.

[Molly_Millions]

Mannequin system /o/

Space issue solved yay~

not if we only get 1 mannequin per job/class. if that is the case, then gear swapping puts us back at square one.

[NarikoStar]

not if we only get 1 mannequin per job/class. if that is the case, then gear swapping puts us back at square one.

This is very true- I'm giving an option if they /ever/ did go the gear swapping way which is the only way I can see them logically adding it into the system.
But since we won't have any idea how it will completely work till 2.0 we'll have to wait and see ;<

[Nekirr]

not true. whats faster, this:

/equip hands "Some Gloves of Might +1"
/wait 1
/ac "some action"

or this:

/ac "some action"


I rest my case.

People put /wait's in there gear change macros in ffxi? what lol

[Wolfie]

I still don't see the issue with it becoming the norm. It would require you to play the game more to obtain more items. Is that an issue? I think not.

Acquiring more items? Not an issue.

Dumb macros, dumb mechanic, elitism, obtuse mechanic, and realistically speaking zero option in gear choice? That is an issue.