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    Please, don't even consider this. I hate macros here right now, they feel sluggish compared to how they were in FFXI.

    There just seems to be an extra delay to the macro button..

    Plus, most people have gear for all classes with them often. Nobody wants to have to have MORE sets just because we can swap gear.

    Also, it's just plain illogical.


    In FFXI I was a main BLM, and often carried around near max inventory in gear at all times. As inventory space went up I just found new things to fill it with. I don't want this again, it's an inventory nightmare.
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    "inventory full of stuff", "blinking", "have to write/use 432890 macros" -> not because of the possibility to change gear, but because of how the game is programmed
    "realism" -> lol
    "elitism" -> since the general and RPG-defining rule (with or without the possibility to switch gear) is still "your character get better with better gear", I dont see how it is any different

    But it allowed (it was one of many possibilities to do it) to keep old gear useful. Again, if you feel it was bad in FFXI, it was because of FFXI (having to do old and boring dynamis to get this awesome Rdm hat when you could do the awesome and newer salvage/nyzul/whateverelse... but they didnt give any hat with refresh). If you're in a game with an awesome 5-years old raid, maybe you'd like to do it and get something useful at the end.
    It also allowed to have a long progression (which is all RPG is about : XP, gils, stuff, pokemons captured, etc. It's all progression)
    And allowed (again, one of many possibilities) to quickly modify your strategy (getting in defense gear when you're attacked, by example). There are "slow" strategy choices (choosing your job, your food), and "fast" strategy choices (ability like bard songs, hasso/seigan, switch gear, calling another pokemon, etc.). Again, that's an important element in RPG.

    The only pertinent reason why the developers don't have to allow gear swap is... because they don't have to. Everything explained above can be reached by many other systems.
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    Skill: Choose the one equipment set you believe is adequated for the following battle and be punished in case your choice sucked; carry around multiple sets if you want to switch between fights

    Lazyness: Carry a shitload of gear and just fire up a macro before anything.
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    Last edited by AdvancedWind; 03-22-2012 at 11:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    Skill: Choose the one equipment set you believe is adequated for the following battle and be punished in case your choice sucked; carry around multiple sets if you want to switch between fights

    Lazyness: Carry a shitload of gear and just fire up a macro before anything.
    Think you got it backwards there buddy.
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    To quote Darth Vader:

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo!
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    Surprised no one quoted this yet, but they did answer this question nearly a year ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne
    Spoke with Battle Master Matsui to get the lowdown on the whole gear swapping question that's got you all buzzin'. In regards to swapping gear while in battle, since changing certain gear while in battle will change your class in FFXIV, we're not planning to make it possible to swap gear in battle. This direction will not change in the future.

    We are focusing instead on making adjustments with the battle-related fixes to ensure that you can battle to your utmost ability without having to rely on changing gear multiple times mid-fight.
    Here's the link to the quote.

    ^ I think that's a pretty definite no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon View Post
    Surprised no one quoted this yet, but they did answer this question nearly a year ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohnne
    Spoke with Battle Master Matsui to get the lowdown on the whole gear swapping question that's got you all buzzin'. In regards to swapping gear while in battle, since changing certain gear while in battle will change your class in FFXIV, we're not planning to make it possible to swap gear in battle. This direction will not change in the future.

    We are focusing instead on making adjustments with the battle-related fixes to ensure that you can battle to your utmost ability without having to rely on changing gear multiple times mid-fight.

    Here's the link to the quote.

    ^ I think that's a pretty definite no.
    I feel like this needs to be re-stated. They've already said it's not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    I feel like this needs to be re-stated. They've already said it's not going to happen.
    Yep, and it shouldn't happen. It was allowed in XI due to poor design choices, which is something the devs are trying to avoid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Yep, and it shouldn't happen. It was allowed in XI due to poor design choices, which is something the devs are trying to avoid.
    Yep. Also I bet if it was never in XI and the devs suggested adding it here for the first time, it would receive a horrible reception from players as an obnoxiously stupid system that makes things needlessly complex.
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    -Edited, I was trying to post a macro to change gear, but alas class swaping as aposed to gear swapping seems to be the topic

    Originally I had the Macro

    /bm off
    /eq item1
    /eq item2
    /bm on
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    Last edited by Noata; 03-22-2012 at 11:26 PM.

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