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    E4EO's Avatar
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    Samuel Wolcott
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Want to become a mentor, but I'm not sure if I should

    Hi everyone,

    I recently got the ability to become a mentor through the DoL, DoH route, now I know that isn\\'t enough to become a good mentor so I plan to get a dps to 80 along with my WHM, PLD, CUL, and BTN, along with beating Titania and Innocence Ex so I can have experience with all types of jobs at all levels of play, this comes with my 1000 hours of playtime, and I typically play the game daily if only for a few hours.

    But I still feel I won\\'t be a good enough mentor, I look at so many mentors and see them having thousands of hours played, with almost all jobs to 80 and every piece of content beat. Then I look at myself with the bare minimum requirements to be a mentor and think, "is that really enough?", I don\\'t want to play the game 24/7 over the course of thousands of hour\\'s, I don\\'t want to level up all jobs to 80, I don\\'t want to do Ex primals every other day. But the other thing is, I hear all this talk about those same mentors who are just in it for the crown, who berate noobs for being noobs, and that\\'s when I think that maybe I do have enough credentials to be a good mentor because I wouldn\\'t be in it just to berate sprouts and wave around my crown.

    So I\\'d like to ask you guy\\'s, are my credentials enough if I\\'m willing to help sprouts? Is there anything I should add?

    I know I could help sprouts without the crown, but it just seems so much harder than with the crown. The game gives you so many resources to find and help other people that I see no reason not to use them.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Most people ignore the crown or mock it. Having the crown won't help you help others.
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Being a mentor is a meme, the novice network is almost entirely useless. If you want to help someone, just help them, you don't need a crown to do it.
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    Gaethan Tessula
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    Being a mentor is a meme, the novice network is almost entirely useless. If you want to help someone, just help them, you don't need a crown to do it.
    The novice network is variable depending on what server, what time of day, and what sprouts are looking to get out of it.

    If a player is looking for truly basic advice, like "what's the core essentials of X's rotation" or "I'm new to [role], where do I begin?" or the even simpler "how do I use X system?"? Novice network will probably answer it correctly or at least satisfactorily. That sort of basic advice is really all SE seems to want anyways; the mentor program is meant to ensure that new players don't quit the game, not to groom competency in content above normal difficulty.

    If a player looking for optimization advice or anything to that degree? Yeah, at best they'll get the same dissent and lack of consensus seen on the forums, or reddit, or where-ever.

    If someone wants it to stay on topic and never get used as a global chat, then they'll be eternally disappointed unless they move to a Japanese data center.

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    Still, OP, Billy has the right of it. The standards to be a mentor are low, you don't need to be one to help others, and some people will be less likely to listen to you if you are one (it varies by person). So become one, or don't. You're plenty qualified if you do, and not missing out on much if you don't.

    EDIT: I've never had anyone approach me for advice because I had the crown displayed, which says a lot. If you get the crown, you're doing it for novice network regardless of motive.
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    Last edited by Gaethan_Tessula; 09-13-2019 at 06:54 AM.

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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    Being a mentor is a meme, the novice network is almost entirely useless. If you want to help someone, just help them, you don't need a crown to do it.
    Pretty much this. That being said, just be sure of the information youre handing out. It doesn't hurt to consult places like the balance either, or guide people to places like that discord. You dont have to be some 90th percentile raider to know how things work. If you have a solid understanding of mechanics and some patience, youll be fine.
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    Gelesto T'ki
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    Omega
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    By all means become a mentor but crown or not is it going to change the way you interact with other players in game? The main objective of mentors it to help new players fit into their place in whatever content it is, whether its crafting, gathering, pvp or otherwise. If you feel like you can be of help to these people taking their first steps into Eorzia then thats great, my advice would be to turn the crown off and when giving advice or help do it from a stand point where you are equals as being told what to do from someone in an apparrant form of superiority can be infuriating to some, whereas a word of advice from a fellow adventurer can be more receptive.
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    Altina Schwarzer
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    Twintania
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gelesto View Post
    By all means become a mentor but crown or not is it going to change the way you interact with other players in game? The main objective of mentors it to help new players fit into their place in whatever content it is, whether its crafting, gathering, pvp or otherwise. If you feel like you can be of help to these people taking their first steps into Eorzia then thats great, my advice would be to turn the crown off and when giving advice or help do it from a stand point where you are equals as being told what to do from someone in an apparrant form of superiority can be infuriating to some, whereas a word of advice from a fellow adventurer can be more receptive.
    Too bad that your server's NN is not good, but on Twintania's is great; obviously based on only my experience. Offering "advice" in the name of some weird superiority complexe as you stated can also happen without crown *shrugs*. But yeah, I can quite see how NN heavily varies per server and other factors.
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    Just a proud bad-skilked player

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    Diaval Alucard
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    At least you can get a mount from it. (doing 2000 mentor roulette)
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    Last edited by Alucard135; 09-13-2019 at 07:38 AM. Reason: corrected the number

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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    At least you can get a mount from it. (doing 1000 mentor roulette)
    Make that 2.000 - 1.000 will give you a monocle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Make that 2.000 - 1.000 will give you a monocle...
    Oh right! Forgot about that.
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