Ready for Nier Dark Apocalypse?

[Daralii]

Y'know what this Raid Could do? Inspire People to Play or even watch LPs of Neir: Automata.
Besides fun random BS, its good advertisement.

Or draw attention to the original depending on how the raids go. I still want that remaster/remake Yoko Taro said was potentially on the table.

[Voltyblast]

Frankly not: I liked the original Nier far more than Automata and I really didn't like Automata at all.

Still remember when the game asked me to delete my file like 5 times and I was like "Yes, for crying out loud, I never want to replay this game ever again, let me get rid of it!"

If anything if they ever make a Drakengard content, or Valkyrie Profile or even Star Ocean, I would definitely look forward to it.

[TheMightyMollusk]

(And I'd love to get 2Bs hair... SE pls!)

Me too!

::: pauses:::

:::looks down, slowly walks away, sobs in Viera:::

[Bonbori]

Now that we know the release date, I'm even more impatient to play it! AAAAAH! >.<

I love Nier and everything that gets born in Yoko Taro's head so I have absolutely 0 concern over how it will fit into FF14. It will in the best way possible, whatever it is.

The big unknown right now is how they're going to handle the glamour. There are 3 raid tiers and 7 gear types for each that need to be created and they can't all be 2B cosplay. I'm super hoping that at least one of the tiers uses YoRHa Operator outfits for caster/healer gear. It would be a fitting and welcome change of pace from all the robes.

[Bright-Flower]

Or draw attention to the original depending on how the raids go. I still want that remaster/remake Yoko Taro said was potentially on the table.

I'm of mixed feelings.

Nier's gameplay was....not good. The music, voice acting and characters were what really sold me on it. So I'd love a remake of Nier that has better gameplay.

But only if they get the same english voice cast back. (At least for Weiss, Emil and Kaine.)

[Bright-Flower]

Now that we know the release date, I'm even more impatient to play it! AAAAAH! >.<

I love Nier and everything that gets born in Yoko Taro's head so I have absolutely 0 concern over how it will fit into FF14. It will in the best way possible, whatever it is.

The big unknown right now is how they're going to handle the glamour. There are 3 raid tiers and 7 gear types for each that need to be created and they can't all be 2B cosplay. I'm super hoping that at least one of the tiers uses YoRHa Operator outfits for caster/healer gear. It would be a fitting and welcome change of pace from all the robes.

I"m curious if they'll dip into Drakengard or Nier for any outfits. Ivalice favored Tactics in the end but had a good deal of FF XII stuff too.

Considering that 2B's main weapon is a katana I'm guessing 2B's main outfit will be striking but we'll see.

[Renato]

I've been hating on this raid since it was announced and I'm doing my best to not...and to give it a chance. I don't want to be that person who's never played the games but says that it's overrated or overhyped because of what I've seen from it. But at the same time I DO feel like it's been a bit overhyped and just looks like another hack & slash RPG with another generic waifu that's got a fat ass.

My biggest gripe is the fact that it has no relationship with FFXIV. Once again, my favorite MMORPG is being whored to help the sales of another game. This was first done with FF7:Remake and FFXV as we've all heard the rumors that a lot of the income that FFXIV brought in was used for those games. And now Nier. Yoshi P Even mentioned this during the live letter saying, "If you've finished the 5.0 storyline, I strongly suggest you go out and buy Nier: Automata." Like...it's cool for a crossover event, but to create a whole raid based off of a game that has no relationship to FF at all that is supposed to have some kind of relationship with ShB lore is just odd to me.

Sorry for ranting...I know people enjoy the game. And hell, I might even like it if I played it. But honestly, I'm tired of 2B and Nier stuff being used in damn near EVERYTHING nowadays (PSO2, FFXIV, Soul Calibur 6, FF: Brave Exvius, Gravity Rush, Monster Hunter to name a few) and I'm just kind of disappointed because ShB is a great Final Fantasy game. I wish it focused on FF lore and building something original instead of using something that has nothing to do with it.

ok...Rant over

[Silica-chan]

So you ready for Nier Dark Apocalypse?

I'm quite excited. I never played a Nier game but alot of my friends sure hype it.
As for lore concerns I don't have any, gona trust Yoshi and his team

[TaleraRistain]

I'm with you on this. I don't have an issue with crossovers in general, but everything else so far has been small-scale and self-contained. It takes the crossover element (Yokai, Rathalos, etc.) and creates a version of it that is part of the world of FFXIV.

I haven't played Yoko Taro's other games, but from what people have said here and from how he acts in interviews (unless his stage persona is very at-odds with his actual approach to things), I feel like this might be a case of him taking FFXIV and making it part of the world of his game.

Meanwhile, Banri Oda is quietly sobbing in a corner...


If he is trying to integrate FFXIV into his actual story rather than creating a disconnected "Eorzean version" of it, I'm very wary about what this will do to the lore, particularly as I understand that would put the story in the same reality as our Earth - and I really dislike that prospect. I'd much rather it stays in its own fantasy universe with its own laws-of-physics and cosmology.

Even if it's not officially connected, people are going to theorise that it is.

I'm not looking forward to this at all.

Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I hope so. But for now, I'm dreading it.

Also, it just feels wrong for a non-FF game to get such a starring role here, taking up an entire alliance raid (an ongoing core gameplay mode) rather than a temporary special event - it's a bigger feature than several actual Final Fantasy crossovers have had. What's so special about this one game to get this treatment? Or does it mean we'll have more crossovers like this in future, turning FFXIV from its own thing into a patchwork of bits from other stories? I realise that's what it's already doing with other FF games, but at least there are boundaries and a theme to doing that.

Completely agree with everything you said. The lore aspect in particular bothers me because it isn't like 24 man raids aren't important to the lore. We just had an entire expansion where a key element was what happened in the level 50 24 man raids.

[Arthrun]

I've been hating on this raid since it was announced and I'm doing my best to not...and to give it a chance. I don't want to be that person who's never played the games but says that it's overrated or overhyped because of what I've seen from it. But at the same time I DO feel like it's been a bit overhyped and just looks like another hack & slash RPG with another generic waifu that's got a fat ass.

My biggest gripe is the fact that it has no relationship with FFXIV. Once again, my favorite MMORPG is being whored to help the sales of another game. This was first done with FF7:Remake and FFXV as we've all heard the rumors that a lot of the income that FFXIV brought in was used for those games. And now Nier. Yoshi P Even mentioned this during the live letter saying, "If you've finished the 5.0 storyline, I strongly suggest you go out and buy Nier: Automata." Like...it's cool for a crossover event, but to create a whole raid based off of a game that has no relationship to FF at all that is supposed to have some kind of relationship with ShB lore is just odd to me.

Sorry for ranting...I know people enjoy the game. And hell, I might even like it if I played it. But honestly, I'm tired of 2B and Nier stuff being used in damn near EVERYTHING nowadays (PSO2, FFXIV, Soul Calibur 6, FF: Brave Exvius, Gravity Rush, Monster Hunter to name a few) and I'm just kind of disappointed because ShB is a great Final Fantasy game. I wish it focused on FF lore and building something original instead of using something that has nothing to do with it.

ok...Rant over

While I am not able to share the same feelings my dude, because my hype is though the roof, I hear ya fully.

Issue stems that Japanese companies tend to favor crossovers whenever they can. Good or bad, it is kinda a well tried and true marketing tool for them. It is kind of like social networking between companies to have such odd things to cross over's. isekai quartet is kinda of an extreme example of this, Capcom vs Street fighter is another more famous one (morphing into MVC that we know today.) And people like myself will eat it all up, Heck I would be totally down for a Warcraft x Final fantasy cross over, bloody love to see how square would design the Lich King.

Can we explain it all away? Sure! Our PC has done some universal dimensional crossing before lore wise within Final Fantasy so can be explained by 'MAGIC'. I mean... Eden turns the planet into a weapon and sends us to a black hole...