Ready for Nier Dark Apocalypse?

[MikuMitsuko]

I've been hating on this raid since it was announced and I'm doing my best to not...and to give it a chance. I don't want to be that person who's never played the games but says that it's overrated or overhyped because of what I've seen from it. But at the same time I DO feel like it's been a bit overhyped and just looks like another hack & slash RPG with another generic waifu that's got a fat ass.

My biggest gripe is the fact that it has no relationship with FFXIV. Once again, my favorite MMORPG is being whored to help the sales of another game. This was first done with FF7:Remake and FFXV as we've all heard the rumors that a lot of the income that FFXIV brought in was used for those games. And now Nier. Yoshi P Even mentioned this during the live letter saying, "If you've finished the 5.0 storyline, I strongly suggest you go out and buy Nier: Automata." Like...it's cool for a crossover event, but to create a whole raid based off of a game that has no relationship to FF at all that is supposed to have some kind of relationship with ShB lore is just odd to me.

Sorry for ranting...I know people enjoy the game. And hell, I might even like it if I played it. But honestly, I'm tired of 2B and Nier stuff being used in damn near EVERYTHING nowadays (PSO2, FFXIV, Soul Calibur 6, FF: Brave Exvius, Gravity Rush, Monster Hunter to name a few) and I'm just kind of disappointed because ShB is a great Final Fantasy game. I wish it focused on FF lore and building something original instead of using something that has nothing to do with it.

ok...Rant over

^ This 100%. And I shouldn't need to pay forty bucks to understand the story for new content - especially when said content has absolutely nothing to do with the game series. It's just a giant fanservice advertisement even though they're likely going to shoehorn it into the lore. We could be getting a raid relevant to the world, pre-existing lore, and characters but no here's Waifu with a Sword #5461.

[Silica-chan]

So you ready for Nier Dark Apocalypse?

I'm quite excited. I never played a Nier game but alot of my friends sure hype it.
As for lore concerns I don't have any, gona trust Yoshi and his team

[TheMightyMollusk]

The Monster Hunter crossover fits in just fine, because it just presents Rathalos as an elite hunt mark. There's no great stretch involved, no major story, just "here's a talking cat, he wants you to kill a dragon". And the talking cat himself isn't a stretch, since we see talking animals all the time (Matoya's poroggo familiars, Cait Sith in the Shadows of Mhach storyline, etc).

[Rangar]

First, while people all going off about glams, can we also have the weapons from the Nier franchise too to get our hands on.

As for everyone who hates this crossover, we thank you for your opinion, but, it's coming, and we'll just have to agree to disagree. Stop getting into arguments over canon and why it should or shouldn't be in the game before anyone even knows what's going to happen in the story. The game has a massive following, Nier has already been crossed over into other games, and people have been begging for it to be done in here to. The fact that YoshiP and Yoko Taro were even able to agree to this, is a small miracle by itself; these two directors are nothing alike -- like mixing oil and water, and I'm really curious about what we're in store for. And given the kinds of introspective subject matter Yoko Taru is known for, it's not gonna appeal to everyone, and I'm sure there's gonna be tons of people just skipping the cut-scenes and conclude the content is crap; and that's fine, heck, I can even respect it if people actually think about what's going on and still not care for it, but don't grief people for wanting this.

Yeah, I'm sure most will be playing it for the memes; but knowing the story of Nier, I think this raid could be very appropriate in the end.

"Everything that lives, is designed to end. We are perpetually trapped in a never-ending cycle of life and death. Is this a curse? Or some kind of punishment? I often think about the god that blessed us with this cryptic puzzle. And wonder if we'll ever have the chance to kill him (or her)?" - Nier:Automata

[TaleraRistain]

Kingdom Hearts has an even more massive following and could fit in just as easily as Nier but it doesn't belong here affecting the lore of this game either. It would have been fine for another timed collaboration. This is giving it far too much presence in an MMO based around a completely unrelated game series.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Kingdom Hearts is also tied to Disney. Don't give the Mouse ideas. He owns enough.

[Alleo]

I already find quite some fanservice from other FF games too much so I am even less happy about this being a whole raid. Of course they could try to fit this into the lore but I will always know that this comes from another franchise. Its like suddenly having a whole raid about Pokemon or stuff like that ingame.

I honestly want more completely original raids in this game. Something which FF14 can use to stand out from all the FF games. Maybe with bosses that themselves will become iconic along the way and be used in other FF games. But instead of that they are now taking it even from something not FF related.

Its fine if people enjoy this and are looking forward to it but I dont. Maybe to shock us the whole new NPC cast will be killed of but in the end since its just one side part of the game and cant change much (thankfully) I dont see how it would ever have some of the endings a few people seemingly want.

[Videra]

Nier has nothing to do with FFXIV and I don't care for Yoko Taro's "Look at me, I'm so DEEP AND PHILOSOPHICAL" writing style.

There, I said it. This shouldn't be happening in the first place.

[linay]

Nier has nothing to do with FFXIV

Nier doesn't, but Yorha Dark Apocalypse does.

I maybe very wrong, but nothing about this looks like is meant to be integrated. It looks like there had been interest in integrating it in to 14 is just about shoehorning a very different game. Also given that a lot of the team making this have barely even played 14 I don't have a lot of faith.

It'd be no different than any other side quest like Ivalice or Omega or Alexander. They're all integrated when they happen.

[Jybril]

I'm indifferent. I wasn't too huge of a fan of Nier: A, I didn't care for the story and setting to be honest.
I did like everything else from the very little I played, which was past a tiny bit past the Carnival, which I loved the boss!
There's nothing wrong with more stuff and all, and 24 mans are my fave so meh.

My small complaint is, XIV feels like it keeps having Identity Crisis.
How about more original stuff from the game itself? Instead of the constant
Nostalgia Blasts. They're not necessarily bad (I'm still waiting for FF7/10 raids?)
but I wish it did something more within it's own game and not keep pulling from other games
and games nothing to do with the series.