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    Player
    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyvara View Post
    Oh god I can see it now. You're doing carpentry you get a message "Your Tie has been caught in the band saw! Tap space repeatedly to escape!"
    I was thinking more like the Excellent/Good/Poor events, except with things like (off the top of my head) "quality increasing actions cost double CP with half efficiency but all other actions cost no CP and no durability", or "the next Standard Touch within 3 turns will cost 0 CP and 0 durability and extend all active buffs by 3 more turns, failing to use Standard Touch within 3 turns will cause -50% efficiency to all quality-increasing actions for the next 5 turns".

    Extremely easy to respond to with no downsides whatsoever. Make them only appear for starred products (not intermediate materials) if you want.

    None of that button smashing stuff.
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    Nadrojj Rolyatt
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    As someone who just came back after a two year break I welcome this. I am currently working on getting all my crafts from 50-60 then 60-70 then 70-80. It's quite the slog and I find a lot of the recipes are pretty tough to QA (looking at you crawler silk, hell pretty much most of the 35 and 40 durabilty synths) I can only imagine what it's going to be like at higher levels! That being said I feel that ffxiv has the best crafting and gathering system of pretty much any MMO i have played, I hope they don't mess with it too badly.
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    Arthrun Findore
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    Faerie
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I just really hope these changes to help new crafters to get into it. If people coming form WoW or other games where crafting is just too simple in comparison to FFXIV, it just incredibly intimidating and not intuitive at all. I always wanted an additional source of income, but I have been turned off by professions because of how it is currently.
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarkovitch View Post
    It second best thing happening on QOL right after Auto Attack changes.
    Little bit of an off topic (kinda) but what AA changes?
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    Little bit of an off topic (kinda) but what AA changes?
    Back in days, when you where looking away or turn 180° on a add you couldn't auto attack him even targeted.
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    Last edited by Zarkovitch; 09-18-2019 at 09:32 AM.

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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I think there's room for both. Keep the ability to macro in basic crafts. Even starred things. But for things like Ishgard Restoration or other "crafting mission" type things, put in the sort of events that a macro wouldn't be able to respond to.

    EQII had a great system for this where you had to respond to events that happened while you crafted with the right ability. Unfortunately there were only 3 each for progress and quality, but FF could definitely borrow this and expand on it.

    And I'm looking forward to the DoL changes, but wishing that fishing would get some love already to bring it into line with MIN and BTN, especially the in-game UI.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Crafting is in an awkward spot where it's hard to put any actual "skill" into it.

    Which is why I doubt the rankings for the Ishgard Restoration are going to be very entertaining at all since it's likely either going a straight grind of spamming collectable turn-ins that the botters win by default or turning in a limited number of items with the highest collectability rating possible which is biased towards the rich people with maxed overmelds and is still abusable by botters who can just spam crafts on loop until they get a craft with multiple excellent procs.
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    Aduro Terrarum
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    Hey, sorry, where do I find the list of changes being referenced here?
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AduroT View Post
    Hey, sorry, where do I find the list of changes being referenced here?
    Was discussed in the most recent live letter. Not sure if there is a post up about it yet..
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nabril View Post
    P.S. --> Well, unless you want to incorporate complex math equations. That would be fun. For me... but most other players would not enjoy that so it's not a good idea.
    I 100% don’t see the problem if this would be the case for the highest tiers. You don’t see Marcos that makes you 100% complete Savage raids/Ultimate fights despite it not being accesible to everyone, I can’t see why this should not be the case for endgame crafting/Gathering as well to make it more valueable. Extra points if they can make it impossible for bots to do it in the process.
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