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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90

    Bolts of Cloth are still stupid expensive with crystals in 5.1

    Despite Yoshi acknowledging earlier than the crystal costs of Bolts of Cloth X were costing too much, the latest live letter showed the following slide:



    Bolts still require 2 steps and still require tons of crystals. . .
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Don't get me started on Lightning Crystals.

    I ran out several times leveling my WVR to 80 and have been sending my retainers on non-stop trips to gather more even after hitting 80 just to make sure this never happens again. Back at 2k+ now but they're still gathering more because I know, I'll need it again at some point.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Don't get me started on Lightning Crystals.

    I ran out several times leveling my WVR to 80 and have been sending my retainers on non-stop trips to gather more even after hitting 80 just to make sure this never happens again. Back at 2k+ now but they're still gathering more because I know, I'll need it again at some point.
    I ended up doing the same. Retainers as well as doing the Lightning Namazu quests.

    Lightning and Wind seem to be the worst offenders.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Luke Lightbringer
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    They also said crystal yields from gathering will be increased so soon there will be a lot more crystals on the market which means the price will go down
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    Kasumi Shirinami
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Have they ever shown new recipes or recipe adjustments before a patch launches?
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Bard Lv 90
    does it really matter, just buy 30k crystals from bots, they are even making it easier for them with the new fast gathering most likely.
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    Willig Rowde
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Have they ever shown new recipes or recipe adjustments before a patch launches?
    They used to back in HW patches, but even then they would post the recipes and/or adjustments with the pre-patch/patch notes while the servers were down usually. In SB, they stopped doing that altogether and posted items and recipes "at a later date" (usually noted in the pre-patch/patch notes), if at all.

    So yeah, I think that image was simply illustrating the recipe tree and not any adjustments to crystal/material costs.

    On that note, I'm hyped for recipe tree view. I think that's super nice.
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    Arturia Crossroads
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    It's possible they may be addressing the problem from the other side by increasing the amount we get by gathering
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I've dedicated two of my retainers to just stocking up on lightning crystals for now. Hoping the significantly increase the amount you get from gathering them.
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    i am overflowing with crystals/clusters because of aetherial reduction. i have no problem with how things are now lol
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