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    MontyChamberlain's Avatar
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    It's time we get an Extreme Trial Roulette.

    It's been more than 5 years since the release of A Realm Reborn, and since then the game has built a decent arsenal of EX trials throughout the base game and expansion. To this day, however - via Mentor Roulette - I still meet players fresh out of finishing ARR and the 2.X patches who queued directly into Ramuh EX using the Duty Finder. These are players who are not familiar with the nuances of the NA community in regard to high-end duties.

    I do not want to read arguments about how these players should be doing these unsynced in Party Finder - let alone using Party Finder at all. One of my first experiences with end-game content was via the Duty Finder itself, and it was what made me interested in Savage raiding in the first place. Furthermore, waiting for people who are interested in doing these old trials synced is unreasonable. There is not enough reward for the average player who has already experienced that and you cannot expect everyone to be benevolent givers of time for old EX trials.

    So why not create an Extreme Trial Roulette with a daily reward enticing enough for veteran players? This solves the issue of old duties like Ultima's Bane or Zurvan EX having queues that are barren except once in a blue moon, giving new-ish players interested in high-end raiding a chance to wet their feet via the Duty Finder. Furthermore, instead of having jaded mentors, who may or may not have expected an easy guildhest for their mentor roulette, leave an EX trial, you will have players who knowingly queued for it.

    It's clear that the game is getting an ever-increasing amount of content over the years. However, we need a way to allow newer players an easier chance to play older high-end duties as they were meant to be experienced, and an EX trial roulette would be a step in the right direction!
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    Yeah, no thanks. People already avoid Mentor Roulette because of extreme trials and how bad/unwieldy the general player base is when it comes to actually communicating, they'll avoid this one too. Waste of resources.
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    No one will use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    No one will use it.
    I would. It would probably be the only roulette I'd queue for if they implemented it.
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    ... I can already see the thread of people complaining about how people queuing for that roulette don't know how the fights go and how they need to stay out of it so they can get their xp/drop bonus quickly and efficiently.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    I'm not against of having EX Trials roulette, but tend to agree with this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    ... I can already see the thread of people complaining about how people queuing for that roulette don't know how the fights go and how they need to stay out of it so they can get their xp/drop bonus quickly and efficiently.
    I already hear this outrage from people who wants to see in their roulettes only perfect players and isn't ready to have several wipes (which you will have in extreme content with randoms, believe me). Also, people will probably just ignore this roulette same as they ignore Mentor now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    ... I can already see the thread of people complaining about how people queuing for that roulette don't know how the fights go and how they need to stay out of it so they can get their xp/drop bonus quickly and efficiently.
    I mean if this roulette were implemented there woukd absolutely be the expectation that you know at least the basics of the fight. Its an EX trial not a 24-man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    ... I can already see the thread of people complaining about how people queuing for that roulette don't know how the fights go and how they need to stay out of it so they can get their xp/drop bonus quickly and efficiently.
    Well considering roulettes require to have cleared the content before unlocking... That wouldn't be an absurd complaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Well considering roulettes require to have cleared the content before unlocking... That wouldn't be an absurd complaint.
    That's only really true for EX roulette (and will probably be true for 80 roulette when that comes), MSQ roulette, and Mentor roulette, though I may have missed one. For the others - leveling, 50/60/70, trials, alliance raids, normal raids, etc. - you can unlock content in the roulette and never complete it, yet still get loaded into it for the first time via the aforementioned roulettes. They could implement a similar lock to EX roulette for it, but it still wouldn't prevent people from getting carried through the content via unsyncing and not actually learning how to do them.
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    No one would use it unless the rewards were really good, but even then you would have players fishing for easy duties. Bis or Rav EX are easier than the 4.3 NM trial, for instance. Or players would just cheese the queues like they do with the current mentor roulette, though it would be even easier to pull off with the smaller queue pool and fewer duties.

    Quote Originally Posted by MontyChamberlain View Post
    However, we need a way to allow newer players an easier chance to play older high-end duties as they were meant to be experienced, and an EX trial roulette would be a step in the right direction!
    There have been too many changes to the combat system since the trials were released to ever get that experience (role actions, mana/TP/aggro management)
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