Question about Miqo'te in Limsa

[Alleluia]

I want to say we've also seen a hyur/roegadyn hybrid... but I can't remember who/where off the top of my head.

Also, are interspecies relationships really that frowned upon in general and it wasn't just a localized thing in those NPCs particular situation? I mean, Lyse outright asks Y'shtola if she's into Thancred or "one of the others" in the SB tale "A Calm After the Storm" and Y'shtola doesn't act like the suggestion is a shock or something.

I mean, that acceptance could be a Sharlyan thing, I suppose.

[MikkoAkure]

I want to say we've also seen a hyur/roegadyn hybrid... but I can't remember who/where off the top of my head.

I think I recall an NPC wondering aloud if highlander hyur are roegadyn hybrids or telling you to not bring it up around highlanders or something. It would make sense though, considering how different they are from all other hyur.

[geekgirl101]

ok ty for your answers, has been very helpful.

[Iscah]

Lominsan miqo'te for the most part are supposed to be cosmopolitan and live normal, non-tribal lives. I think it was mentioned by the NPC in 1.0 Limsa who talked about the races of the city. Besides that, there's dialogue from the R tribe NPCs during this and last years' summer events who mention having normal families.

To be exact, R'fhul Tia says that he and R'mahja "don't have a father" and he wants to be able to support his family. That sent us into a bit of a lore-frenzy trying to figure it out - is the R tribe no longer functioning, with the tribe letter still passed down as a 'family name'? Is it an odd description of a standard tribe (or adjusted-for-city-life tribe) where family units might be mother-and-children with a central nunh not connected to any one family? Could their mother have split off from the tribe and taken her children with her? Is it a tactical way of explaining his situation to a stranger without going into the details of Sunseeker tribe structure?

They're still using standard tribe naming schemes at any rate - the R tribe (if functional) seems to be based in Limsa and there are a number of them around.

Serious mix-race relationships are very frowned upon in general in all of Eorzea and it's likely there are no half-miqo'te. There was a couple in one questline who were skipping out of town not because they were both men, but because they were two different races.

This example gets brought up a lot but I'm not sure it's accurate.

I think it's how I understood it the first time I watched that scene, but on a rewatch it seems more like they were... not in denial, but refusing to acknowledge that the reason people might see their relationship as "different" is due to gender rather than race - and they never directly state that anyone objected to them being mixed-race.

Also, I can think of several straight mixed-race couples (confirmed or hinted/potential) but no other gay couples in the game. So that would seem to contradict the interpretation that race is the issue.

It's still ambiguous though, but not enough that I want to take it as fact that mixed-race couples are a particular issue, or use it to work out Eorzean social attitudes.

Quest text is here: http://garlandtools.org/db/#quest/65967

I want to say we've also seen a hyur/roegadyn hybrid... but I can't remember who/where off the top of my head.

Hyur/Roegadyn is never outright stated, but minor NPC Immodest Mouse says his grandfather was named Byron - and with a name like that he's unlikely to have been a Hellsguard.

Not to mention some are not even born from clans but from those who have settled in cities, towns, and etc along with their father or mother can be of another race.

Do we have any record of this? I can't think of any examples.

There are some couples where one is Miqo'te and one isn't, but I don't think we're aware of any with children, or any Miqo'te character hinting they had a non-Miqo'te parent.

[MikkoAkure]

As far as the OP’s question goes, this is where people are getting that Lominsan miqo’te are not in tribes:

Lodestone:

Though relatively few in Eorzea, a small number of them have been accepted into everyday life by the other races in the port city of Limsa Lominsa.

Lorebook:

While their overall numbers are not great, their twenty-six tribes are scattered across all reaches of the realm, with small Seeker settlements to be found from the sands of the Sagolii Desert in southern Thanalan to the jagged peaks of Gyr Abania. Yet other Seekers have settled in Limsa Lominsa, drawn to the freedom of pirate life.

Both imply that the Lominsan population of miqo’te exist outside of the tribal structure, which is reinforced by the fact that we see no nunhs outside of the two tribes we have access to, and the two summer event NPCs who seem to describe a normal family.

[Iscah]

Both imply that the Lominsan population of miqo’te exist outside of the tribal structure, which is reinforced by the fact that we see no nunhs outside of the two tribes we have access to [...]

That's the exact reason we don't see any other nunhs though - by definition, their role is to "stay at home" and guard their territory/tribe from threats and challengers.

We've seen the 'home base' of two tribes, both following traditional structure, and can deduce that the Y tribe in Sharlayan probably does as well - or at least did a generation ago, from the fact that Y'shtola and Y'mhitra are half-sisters with the same father.

We don't know where any of the other tribes are based, so we can't be sure until we visit them (or pester the lore Q&A people).

As I said before, the Miqo'te genes are most likely very dominant if the miqo'te have parents of different race.

While there are some mention of mix races and we met a few or heard about it. It is most likely that Miqo'te have very dominant genes so the children maybe born mostly pure Miqo'te in appearance despite their DNA having mix genes.

Don't forget in a 4.0 side quest involve a former Garlean conscript and a Miqo'te, they mentioned having a lot of children once they are married (if you know what they mean). Chances are their children may look 100% Miqo'te.

Why assume this? What information are you basing it off?

[YianKutku]

We don't know where any of the other tribes are based, so we can't be sure until we visit them (or pester the lore Q&A people).

For what it's worth, the J tribe are apparently resident to Ala Ghiri, according to EE2 and J'olhmyn's bio. Meanwhile, J'dyalani's bio confirms that there was at least one nunh of the J tribe present, and given both J'olhmyn and J'dyalani have "Abah" as their last names, this "J'abah" was that nunh.

According to J'dyalani's bio, J'abah Nunh was killed during the Garlean invasion. No mention after that of whether the J tribe got a new nunh, or are now nunh-less.

[monk-dps]

I kindof wanna do what'll happen if an Au ra couples with a htur or miqo'te. What dna wins in the kiddos that'll pop out 9 months later. Also... do Au ra really mate with horses? Or is that a joke? I ... have no idea

[Iscah]

For what it's worth, the J tribe are apparently resident to Ala Ghiri, according to EE2 and J'olhmyn's bio. Meanwhile, J'dyalani's bio confirms that there was at least one nunh of the J tribe present, and given both J'olhmyn and J'dyalani have "Abah" as their last names, this "J'abah" was that nunh.

According to J'dyalani's bio, J'abah Nunh was killed during the Garlean invasion. No mention after that of whether the J tribe got a new nunh, or are now nunh-less.

Ah yeah, I know the J tribe seems to be based in Ala Ghiri but wasn't thinking of it because we haven't been outright told that.

It's kind of hard to confirm whether there's a traditional tribe structure in place unless we either meet the nunh or get told that there isn't one.

I kindof wanna do what'll happen if an Au ra couples with a htur or miqo'te. What dna wins in the kiddos that'll pop out 9 months later. Also... do Au ra really mate with horses? Or is that a joke? I ... have no idea

We do have a historical record of an Au Ra / Hyur pairing - mentioned during the Ruby Princess sidequests, apparently a previous princess married a Hyuran and their child had "almost no scales" - that description coming from an Au Ra perspective suggests they might have still had the tail and horns though.

The Goro tribe marry horses but do not mate with them. It's covered better in the Dataqi Chronicles FATE questline but I don't have a script for that.

[Alleluia]

The Goro tribe marry horses but do not mate with them. It's covered better in the Dataqi Chronicles FATE questline but I don't have a script for that.

... I'm sorry, what? lol