Why is leaching tolerated in MSQ roulette?

[Alleo]

Yeah right, lets pretend those boss aren't total pushover 4 DpS wouldn't break if they sneezed a bit too loudly.

And lets ignore the whole adds along the way. Totally did not have a wipe before the last boss in the first dungeon because of people running into the patrols before the alarm was turned of or because some barely did anything..the second dungeon is much better but the first one can cause quite some trouble. I had one DD pull before the tanks and then ran around with the mobs in a whole different direction. He died and the mobs then came straight to us making it chaos. One healer quit at that point.

Again would like to see a run going as smoothly and great with two healers being afk there.

[Krotoan]

Just throw a "kick them just before final boss to make it worth their time" in chat, and behold the mircale of how they magically come back from afk within 3 seconds to come up with a BS excuse and try to make you the bad guy for even considering kicking them ^^

I find this magically revives quite a few people as well..

[LaylaTsarra]

I find this magically revives quite a few people as well..

I heal as a main and let me say it's very easy for me to know when someone isn't there and afk. I'd be the first to initiate a vote dismiss if it warranted it. I'd also start by asking the offending party if they are coming or what.

[Lastelli]

Just throw a "kick them just before final boss to make it worth their time" in chat, and behold the mircale of how they magically come back from afk within 3 seconds to come up with a BS excuse and try to make you the bad guy for even considering kicking them ^^

I honestly don't care as it takes almost the same amount of time regardless of the number of players actually doing the duty. Sometimes I'll be one of those doing the job, sometimes I'll do other stuff in the meantime and come back for the bosses.

Most people are watching netflix anyway given how pointless and tedious the whole experience is.

[RoyalBeef]

I honestly don't care as it takes almost the same amount of time regardless of the number of players actually doing the duty. Sometimes I'll be one of those doing the job, sometimes I'll do other stuff in the meantime and come back for the bosses.

Most people are watching netflix anyway given how pointless and tedious the whole experience is.

If everyone thinks that way we have 8 people afk at the zone in until duty timer runs out ^^

[Vahlnir]

It happens very rarely and when it does people are dismissed. AFK can happen in any duty, main scenerio isn't special in that regard You can try and make it to be more than it is for the sake of your thread but it isn't a common occurrence. There aren't even any chests to have to deal with so rolling on gear won't prevent a dismissal which can happen in duties like the alliance raids. It's certainly not an epidemic that warrants develop intervention.

I've said what i have to say and I don't agree with you or your threads premise that this is somehow a major problem.

I don't see it very often myself. When I do though it's usually in something like LotA or ST where it's near impossible to get a vote to kick out before combat begins and I'm sure they are well aware of that fact. And even if it does most people don't care because 1 missing person isn't going to make things any slower. In MSQ roulette I've only seen it maybe once or twice but it's usually the same logic. I'm not defending leeching, mind you, I'm just saying that depending on the content people simply don't care or don't care enough to take the time to initiate a vote to kick.

[Cabalabob]

Rather than looking at the people afking in duty, maybe we should look at the design of having a 30-45 minute dungeon full of long winded unskippable cutscenes as a daily roulette?

Before they made the cutscenes unskippable these dungeons took 10 mins, that’s 30mins of padding added on. When you put people in content they don’t want to do with HALF AN HOUR of cutscenes they’ve already watched EVERY DAY to get a massive chunk of their exp, what do you expect is going to happen?

These dungeons are in serious need of trimming. There is so much fluff here that could be cut out and it would change nothing about the story or the dungeon like the many cutscenes that add nothing but Gaius or Nero or Livia lecturing about generic villain dialogue that even new people probably don’t care to hear and sections like the red giant boss going invincible so you just have to sit there and wait for Cid to make him not invincible anymore unless you use an exploit, or the proto-ultima arms that serve no purpose other than to slow you down and make no sense in the first place (the allagans built the ultima weapon, not the garleans).

[Goji1639]

Yea, when in a boring instance I'd just rather keep go-go-going then stop to do any due diligence to see if a vote kick is warranted. Unless stuff is not getting done I just can't be bothered.

[hasana]

Rather than looking at the people afking in duty, maybe we should look at the design of having a 30-45 minute dungeon full of long winded unskippable cutscenes as a daily roulette?

Rather than looking at the msq roulette design maybe we should look at why you and some people are acting like that when the other players in the party are playing just fine.

Don't blame the game because you are some kind of bag.

[JowyAtreides]

Before they made the cutscenes unskippable these dungeons took 10 mins, that’s 30mins of padding added on. When you put people in content they don’t want to do with HALF AN HOUR of cutscenes they’ve already watched EVERY DAY to get a massive chunk of their exp, what do you expect is going to happen?

Before they made the cutscenes unskippable the exp was poor, new players couldn't watch the cutscenes or were even lucky to get a queue via duty finder because less people did it. There were even cases of people being kicked from the instance for watching the cutscenes.

Now there is a nice hefty exp bonus and people use it to level.

You are not obliged to run the content. If you don't like it, don't run it. People that queue know exactly what they are queuing for, there are literally zero surprises and should therefore give as close to 100% as they can and there is no excuses for leeching.

In the words of Michael Mcintyre: You made your decision, accept your fate.