Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
Pulling everything in that dungeon was possible in fresh gear relatively easily, any party not doing all nowadays that doesnt have a new tank or healer is questionable
Man I had a guy literally /quit the run when I tried to do this at the start. Not a single word of protest just an immediate bounce. So I tend to be cautious nowadays on that first pull. I just 3+1 nowadays because trying to pull all four (one of the "packs" is just a patrolling shark thing, not really 4 packs) will get you killed by amateur healers.

If I'm on my PLD though I'll do it, because I can usually heal myself fine before we all die if I have a pair of good DPS with me.