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  1. #201
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Kurenai Tenshi
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    They want us filling queues for people, right. That's why I'm suggesting an opt out option. I don't fill queues for anyone waiting for alliance raids because I'd rather avoid the entire rouluette than get the really boring duties in it. If I could queue without being eligible for the raids I don't like, I would. It's a gain for everyone. Choice doesn't defeat the purpose of the roulette and if you think about it, we already have a choice in that we have multiple roulettes for filling different content. Every roulette except the Mentor roulette excludes duties. I'm just suggesting a slightly finer level of control. I feel like it's especially likely to work in the alliance roulette because we have a split of opinion on which raids are preferred. ARR is probably going to remain more popular overall no matter what is done, but if people who avoid the roulette entirely start queuing, that's a plus. More choice also means the people unwilling to deal with the 70 raids wouldn't be joining them and immediately quitting.

    As for the ilvl requirement, I guess there are a few ways to implement it. As it is now it allows people to influence the raid that they get. If we change it so that the requirement is dynamic, people can still quit, some might just avoid unlocking certain raids. Those players like myself have no more incentive than now to queue, and new players (especially with Road to 70) might be cutoff from a roulette just because they don't meet the requirements for 1 duty within it.
    The problem is if you provide people an opt out method, a significant number will veto the least efficient options. In essence, you're providing a non-exploitative way for people to guarantee they only get LotA/ST which will make the queues even longer for everything else. If such a feature existed for say, Leveling Roulette, a lot of people will pick the baby dungeons to ensure they never take them. This could make queuing into even Copperbell a nightmare for newer players, which is not a good first impression. What you're suggesting wouldn't solve anything but potentially make it worse.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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  2. #202
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    hasana's Avatar
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    Jotaro Kujo
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    Spriggan
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    Pugilist Lv 31
    People have always been doing the ilvl thing to get LoTA and ST so why does it matter now?

    Well because there is a new expansion with new players that have only a few alliance raid unlock

    So someone messing with his ilvl will be thrown to those players

    And therefor will take a spot on LoTA/ST and possibly allow you not to have LoTA/ST

    So basically you have

    player A1 (only have lota/st unlock) queueing for alliance roulette
    player A2-A3 (queueing for lota or st)

    Player B (messing with ilvl to get lota or ST)

    Player C (the complain... I mean the filler)

    So any players thrown to any player A(1-3) will get one of the two ST raid regardless of player B
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  3. #203
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    Jennah's Avatar
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    Jennah Arhtima
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 90
    The argument here seems to be: "I hate running LotA and Syrcus Tower, therefore I never run Alliance Roulette."

    I think the reality is actually the other way around: "I run Alliance Roulette almost daily, probably because I'm levelling a lot of classes. Therefore I hate getting anything other than LotA, Syrcus Tower, or maybe Void Ark."
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  4. #204
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    FedoraTheExplorer's Avatar
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    Roland Umbrosus
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Nope. LotA and Syrcus are boring as hell and I dread doing alliance roulettes for tomestones/levelling because it's always these two. I would gladly take Void Ark over them just to have have a change of scenery. Hell, I'll even take WoD.
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    Last edited by FedoraTheExplorer; 09-16-2019 at 11:01 AM.

  5. #205
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 64
    It might not be only an ilvl thing. If most don't have the other raids unlocked, DF can't select them. I don't have Void Ark, etc. I missed the hype train on those and didn't think it was worth unlocking after when it turned into dead content.
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  6. #206
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    Zeldert-Castiel's Avatar
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    Arcadia Equinox
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    Typhon
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I'm aware of this, for some reason I got LotA way too often than the other raids, even as a job above level 70. Well there are times where I got WoD so that's good at least...

    "G'raha, I love you but I'm sick of your raid"
    -me
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  7. #207
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    AncientCrystal's Avatar
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    Dawn Solaris
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Tired of just seeing Lab and Tower all the time. I want the HW ones just as much. It's a problem and needs to be FIXED.
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  8. #208
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    Yunuen's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Y'avu Na'huel
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I've been queuing up as a healer, praying for the SB alliance raids, and it's so disappointing to get Syrcus or Labyrinth. I've even tried specifically queuing for Orbonne, and there's a 25 minute wait whenever I try.
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  9. #209
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    RoyalBeef's Avatar
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    Tiny Tina
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yunuen View Post
    I've even tried specifically queuing for Orbonne, and there's a 25 minute wait whenever I try.
    Oh no 25 minutes! As I stated earlier, as DPS that's a normal queue time for me for basically everything (granted I Q'dfor Orbonne last night and it was 17 minutes), so I always get a good chuckle out of it when healers or tanks are shocked when they experience it once and act like it's the end of the world ^^ Do beast tribes or whatever while waiting, you're not meant to sit there and watch the clock tick down.
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    Last edited by RoyalBeef; 09-17-2019 at 03:30 PM.

  10. #210
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    Evanoel's Avatar
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    Evanoel Crownguard
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 74
    Yet as soon as people see Orbonne Monastery everybody bails. lol
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