Labyrinth and Syrcus Tower...

[Hash_Browns]

The truth is that it's not the players fault the system is so broken.
If both duties give the same exp at the end, why wouldn't players who view the roulettes as a chance at free exp take the shortest path?

It really should be set up in a way that higher level duties give more EXP. It's the only solution to stop people from undergearing themselves.

[LaylaTsarra]

It really should be set up in a way that higher level duties give more EXP. It's the only solution to stop people from undergearing themselves.

Exactly... then people wouldn't mind getting the higher level ones. Seems like an easy enough fix to me. They've demonstrated that with Praetorium (something no one would run with unskippable cutscenes ) yet oddly enough now that's all people want.

[Hash_Browns]

Exactly... then people wouldn't mind getting the higher level ones. Seems like an easy enough fix to me. They've demonstrated that with Praetorium (something no one would run with unskippable cutscenes ) yet oddly enough now that's all people want.

Hey I'm in that boat.
I'll take 20million EXP over 8million EXP any day of the week.

[TaleraRistain]

This whole thread is coming about because of "I don't want X"

Well people dropping ilevel (before anyone jumps in, no I don't, but I also don't mind what I get in Alliance) don't want Y. If they get Y, then people say they just leave. What's going to happen when the game makes them get Y? They'll just stop running the roulette unless they are given a reason to run it. The reason people drop Castrum like a hot potato is because it has shit experience compared to Prae. If you're running just for tomes, it's great cause it's quick. But if you're leveling an alt class are many are with MSQ, then Prae gives you a massive amount more xp.

Do the same with these. Higher level means higher rewards. For one, it's a much easier thing to code. And two, it gives people a reason not to bail. Plus if someone does want to drop ilevel because they're trying to get a certain glam or just want an easy run that night, then they can still do that and keep the roulette going rather than abandoning it because they're forced into something that isn't worth it for them. Incentives are always going to be much more well received than punishments.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I burned out on Syrcus Tower farming moogle tomes before ShB launched. I've stopped bothering with the roulette because that's all I get now.

Also because I still can't hand in Orbonne gear for GC seals. I've got a bag full of that crap.

[LaylaTsarra]

I burned out on Syrcus Tower farming moogle tomes.

There is another Moogle Ques/Event due soon from what I understand.

[TheMightyMollusk]

There is another Moogle Ques/Event due soon from what I understand.

[ForteNightshade]

This whole thread is coming about because of "I don't want X"

Well people dropping ilevel (before anyone jumps in, no I don't, but I also don't mind what I get in Alliance) don't want Y. If they get Y, then people say they just leave. What's going to happen when the game makes them get Y? They'll just stop running the roulette unless they are given a reason to run it. The reason people drop Castrum like a hot potato is because it has shit experience compared to Prae. If you're running just for tomes, it's great cause it's quick. But if you're leveling an alt class are many are with MSQ, then Prae gives you a massive amount more xp.

Do the same with these. Higher level means higher rewards. For one, it's a much easier thing to code. And two, it gives people a reason not to bail. Plus if someone does want to drop ilevel because they're trying to get a certain glam or just want an easy run that night, then they can still do that and keep the roulette going rather than abandoning it because they're forced into something that isn't worth it for them. Incentives are always going to be much more well received than punishments.

Except it doesn't quite work that way. Alliance Roulette still gives a boatload of experience that only Orbonne poses any risk to efficiency. Dun Scaith, Rabanastre and Riodana are all so easy now, it's laughable. You outright skip adds in Hashmel, that's how ridiculous our damage is. Very few people who run Alliance Roulette consistently will stop because thet might get those raids more often, especially when the odds of getting Orbonne would remain low. Furthermore, there are plenty of people who outright stopped queuing because they're tired of LotA and Syrcus Tower. I'll be among those people. I used to spam Alliance even when my jobs were 80 with for tomes or because I liked a lot of the 24 mans. Unless something changes, once I'm done leveling my remaining I'll never touch it again.

[ownagepuffs]

If they can give different exp for Castrum and Praetorium, I don't see the reason the same can't be done for the different 24-man instances. When I get a HW 24 Man my eyes light up with joy because I'm so sick of ST and LOTA. Hell I'd even like to do World of Darkness once in a while but nope. Nothing feels worse than being locked to your ARR kit for literally anything.

[Oichi]

I only started unlocking alliance raids when ShE arrived, since I wanted to know the Crystal Tower story. I had always thought that raids would be too confusing/difficult for me and I didn't want to screw my group. After being a bit more familiar with the Crystal Tower series, I unlocked Void Ark, which i haven't seen yet. I also unlocked and yes, roulette put me in Rabanastre (which I enjoyed a lot) and Ridorana (which I found more confusing, I died at some point there, but I still liked it). So I unlocked Orborne and after reading these threads I am actually scared of getting it...seem that people will either abandon at start of abandon because of wipes at the last boss... And it would be my first time there, so yeah, I am a bit terrified of highly contributing to group failure... but at the same time, I would love to see the conclusion to that story arc. We'll see how this all ends for me, lol.