Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
I think it goes beyond ilvl because even the HW raids are still fairly challenging if people try to face roll them - with the exception of Void Ark which was a face roll even when it was released. I just don't think the Tower Climb is tuned well and that it was never made with the consideration that our stats would balloon in to the scope they currently have reached.
Nah, the 2.0 raids are definitely ilvl. Scylla was a wall when that released. People couldn't do daybreak, and there were a lot of wipes there. Similar with the mechanics of glasya, to a lesser degree.