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    Flay_wind's Avatar
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suniva View Post
    I'm sorry, but I really do not understand what you're trying to ask me here..Is it a pre made since you have 23 other people queue'd with you? How are you having to cheat the system? I'm sorry I don't understand your question, so I cannot really give you an answer.
    What i meant is, basically, i skipped doing HW raids, as such they aren't even unlocked. And because of that the game can't put me anywhere else but ARR raids, even if my character is level 60+. And so other 23 players who queued for Alliance Roulette and got matched with me, get only ARR raids as a result, because that's the only raids I can access on a 50-69 job on my character.
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    Suniva's Avatar
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    Spectra Saberon
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    Faerie
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Flay_wind View Post
    What i meant is, basically, i skipped doing HW raids, as such they aren't even unlocked. And because of that the game can't put me anywhere else but ARR raids, even if my character is level 60+. And so other 23 players who queued for Alliance Roulette and got matched with me, get only ARR raids as a result, because that's the only raids I can access on a 50-69 job on my character.
    Ohh ! Okay ! Thank you, I understand now.

    I honestly have never considered this point until you mentioned it, so thank you for the fresh perspective. Taking into consideration your particular case, I would say that if you want to put in the minimum effort using roulette, then you should get the minimum reward. Your scenario, in all honesty, further enforces the idea in my head that the roulette system should have tiered rewards. (My own perspective of course, and I'm sure some would disagree with me). I just feel that if you want to put in the minimum amount of effort, then you should get the minimum amount of reward, whereas if someone who uses roulette and gets a higher level raid, will get more of a reward because granted, they would have to put forth a little bit more effort to get past it.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all trying to say that I don't understand the perspective of those that drop their ilvl down, I do. Their arguments DO make sense, but on the other side, roulette IS roulette, which means random. The fact that people DO in fact drop down their ilvl BECAUSE they don't WANT to get a random raid, really does defeat the purpose of it being a roulette system to begin with, and I feel like that that is underhanded tactics.

    I mean, I know this is a game and all, but if we step outside for a moment and consider this. The reason I feel the way I feel is because I put the situation in the following perspective:

    In any other circumstance, if there was a roulette system and you found a way to bypass the random bit that makes it a functioning roulette to work constantly in your favor, then you would face some kind of consequence because your rigging the system to generate a favorable outcome for you. In any other instance, it's generally acknowledged as cheating, but here? Nah, it isn't and only because SE hasn't done anything to address it. I would like to see it addressed in some form, and I think I have been very open to suggestions thus far.
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    Last edited by Suniva; 09-13-2019 at 11:36 PM. Reason: suck at English