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    RoyalBeef's Avatar
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    Tiny Tina
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suniva View Post
    I don't think it is particularly fair that one group gets to get want they want and the other group is left being disappointed by the lack of variety.
    You're always free to queue up for any Alliance Raid you want to see at any time. I get Eden 4 in Trial roulette every time I queue up, that's just how it is. You telling me getting Orbonne 90 out of 100 times bc new restrictions would be more variety than getting LotA 90 out of 100 times bc people are cheesing?
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
    You're always free to queue up for any Alliance Raid you want to see at any time. I get Eden 4 in Trial roulette every time I queue up, that's just how it is. You telling me getting Orbonne 90 out of 100 times bc new restrictions would be more variety than getting LotA 90 out of 100 times bc people are cheesing?
    E4 is not trial but normal raid (I know was a typo) and is more common right now because people are farming them. Once the new 24m raid release the alliance roulette will funnel all 80s there for a good while.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 09-13-2019 at 08:23 PM.

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    Suniva's Avatar
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    Spectra Saberon
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    Faerie
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
    You're always free to queue up for any Alliance Raid you want to see at any time. I get Eden 4 in Trial roulette every time I queue up, that's just how it is. You telling me getting Orbonne 90 out of 100 times bc new restrictions would be more variety than getting LotA 90 out of 100 times bc people are cheesing?
    You're missing the point, or choosing to ignore it. The issue is not whether I can queue up for a particular dungeon of my choosing or not. We are discussing how there is a system in game, called Duty Roulette: Alliance, that is, ideally, in place to give players a reward for sitting through the system and getting one of nine randomly chosen instances to do for the day (It is why it is termed roulette). We all know and are aware that we can queue up for a particular instance if we wanted to, no one is trying to say otherwise. I can easily turn the argument around and say if you don't like the idea of getting anything other than LoTA or WoD for you to queue up for those particular raids yourself and not go out of your way "rigging" the roulette in your favor.

    Please don't try and undermine our concerns by giving these strawman arguments. We all want the rewards that come from using the system and some of us would like to use the system without it being "rigged" by others.
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    Last edited by Suniva; 09-13-2019 at 08:37 PM.

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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
    You're always free to queue up for any Alliance Raid you want to see at any time. I get Eden 4 in Trial roulette every time I queue up, that's just how it is. You telling me getting Orbonne 90 out of 100 times bc new restrictions would be more variety than getting LotA 90 out of 100 times bc people are cheesing?
    No, we're telling you that the roulette should put you into one of 9 dungeons at random - together with 23 other people who will influence which dungeons are available. If a lot of those other people are only eglibile for 2 of those 9 dungeons, the likelyhood of those 2 dungeons appearing would increase, leading to less potential variety for everyone. I hope we dont need to go over an introduction to simple statistics here...

    Even with the ivl-loophole fixed its obviously still possible to get the same dungeon 10 times in a row, but thats because of bad(?) luck at that point not because people are cheating the system - which makes it less likely that thats gonna happen.
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