Labyrinth and Syrcus Tower...

[Driavna]

Asking for a fix is implying there is something wrong with the system. It's working as intended tho ^^ Next thing you know, people ask for it to become a reportable offense. Some time in the future you'll be banned for equipping lower gear, or like in the other thread, for putting you PF party in the wrong category ^^
People who do that obviously don't want to play the raid you queued for, so why implement something that forces them and wil lead to them leaving or not queuing up anymore? As if that fixes your queues times.

The system is broken. The main idea behind those roulettes was to keep alive all alliance raids, not only ARR one. Once this expansion end ShB 24m series is going to be added to the problem, same for the next one. So yeah, SE needs to do something.

Anyway, I take this as living proof of how terrible the average player has become in this game. None of the alliance raids is that hard and most of the mechanic indicators are standard across the whole content since late HW or just require a modicum of awareness: "I wonder why everyone is hiding behind that pillar..."

However, at this point, I will be more than ok with SE removing the daily limit for MSQ bonus and keep all the players that want to turn off their brain, don't care about gearing up and don't want to bother to learn the basics of the class they are playing in a single place.

Edit: I will add that for any non-expert or savage content performance of mid-green is more than enough to have a super smooth run in a timely fashion. And experts only requires a little bit more of awareness and high-green low-blue to clear without any major issue.

[RoyalBeef]

Idk, I can queue up for Orbonne and it pops in about 20 mins, same time it takes to pop a Q for LotA. I don't know what the problem is. None of the Alliance Raids are dead, just bc one or two player get ARR often :P You can't force plyers to do anything, they will just not do it anymore. Acting as if it's impossible for people to clear the raids is unrealistic.
And I doubt that Alliance raids are the place for people to learn mechanics and how their class works. 30% of the force can be dead or have abysmal DPS and you can still clear.

[Suniva]

You can't force plyers to do anything,

I, and other players, are forced to watch cutscenes in MSQ if they que up for it. Nice try.

[RoyalBeef]

I, and other players, are forced to watch cutscenes in MSQ if they que up for it. Nice try.

Yeah, and the ones who dont want to watch those dont do MSq roulette anymore :P What's your point exactly?

[Vidu]

Idk, I can queue up for Orbonne and it pops in about 20 mins, same time it takes to pop a Q for LotA. I don't know what the problem is. None of the Alliance Raids are dead, just bc one or two player get ARR often :P You can't force plyers to do anything, they will just not do it anymore. Acting as if it's impossible for people to clear the raids is unrealistic.
And I doubt that Alliance raids are the place for people to learn mechanics and how their class works. 30% of the force can be dead or have abysmal DPS and you can still clear.

The roulettes arent forcing people to do content they dont want to do, they're giving them an incentive. Thats the trade-off: You get the exp you want, if you agree to do content you might not want to do to help others clear said content. By gaming the system and manipulating your gear to exclude 7 of the 9 possible outcomes you're not holding up your end of the bargain, which is not working as intended. If some people stop doing alliance roulette because they cant game the system anymore, so be it.

And its funny you say that alliance roulettes arent a place for people to learn mechanics when the reason that people dont want to end up in Orbonne are people who are not able to deal with mechanics they could learn in said raid. The very reason that you dont need everyone to play 100% perfect makes it a pretty good learning enviroment: The fights are long enough to actually bother with a proper rotation, they have enough mechanics that require you to pay attention to your surrondings and because they're so many people those mechanics can be actually punishing on an individual level (something you cant have in 4-man-dungeons if you dont want to create wipes at bosses because the healer failed one mechanic and instantly died).
Alliance raids can act as a stepping stone in that learning curve since they can require more of you in terms of awareness, rotation and mechanics than dungeons can, but not as much as an 8-man raid would. People wont be Savage ready after clearing Orbonne but they'll have a better sense of "Oh, I need to pay attention or I'm dead" aswell as "Oh, the whole group needs to pay attention or we're dead" on top of seeing some mechanics that are being repeated later down the line in a less punishing enviroment, like the giant eye-turn-around-mechanic from WoD or the turning arrows from Yiasmat.

[Suniva]

Asking for a fix is implying there is something wrong with the system. It's working as intended tho ^^ Next thing you know, people ask for it to become a reportable offense. Some time in the future you'll be banned for equipping lower gear, or like in the other thread, for putting you PF party in the wrong category ^^
People who do that obviously don't want to play the raid you queued for, so why implement something that forces them and wil lead to them leaving or not queuing up anymore? As if that fixes your queues times.

Remember the days of MSQ when you could speed run and leave newbies in cinematic hell? Back then, it was also "working as intended". And what did SE do, they implemented a "fix" that not only disabled people skipping scenes, but giving far more exp for it. There were of course, naysayers that said people wouldn't que up for MSQ roulette since they couldn't skip the scenes anymore, and we all know how much that has been dis proven. There are many ways the issue could be handled and make it more worthwhile to all types of players, you just have to have an open mind.

Of course I do, and everyone who says they never done it is either a liar, or hasnt unlocked SB alliance raids yet :P Nice try making it look like I'm engaging in some kind of forbidden or unethical activity tho xD Go ahead, name and shame me for avoiding Orbonne Abandon Roulette, I can take it ^^

I honestly never have participated in the practice in all my years playing. Want to call me a liar, go ahead.

[ForteNightshade]

Asking for a fix is implying there is something wrong with the system. It's working as intended tho ^^ Next thing you know, people ask for it to become a reportable offense. Some time in the future you'll be banned for equipping lower gear, or like in the other thread, for putting you PF party in the wrong category ^^
People who do that obviously don't want to play the raid you queued for, so why implement something that forces them and wil lead to them leaving or not queuing up anymore? As if that fixes your queues times.

Because the entire purpose of a roulette is providing queues for content you wouldn't otherwise do. No one wants to do Satasha or Solm Al but due to there being no ilvl requirement on Leveling Roulette, you have to deal with it. Meanwhile, queues take forever on the Ivalice raids which is precisely what the Roulette aims to avoid. So no, it isn't working as intended. This is simply an exploit the devs didn't think people would do.

[Flay_wind]

Because the entire purpose of a roulette is providing queues for content you wouldn't otherwise do. No one wants to do Satasha or Solm Al but due to there being no ilvl requirement on Leveling Roulette, you have to deal with it. Meanwhile, queues take forever on the Ivalice raids which is precisely what the Roulette aims to avoid. So no, it isn't working as intended. This is simply an exploit the devs didn't think people would do.

Leveling Roulette is another can of worms. No one wants Sastasha, Copperbell, or basically anything pre 50. Why it puts me and other 3 60+ leveled players into Sastasha? This needs fixing first, imo.

[Driavna]

That was in response to a person implying that a 20 min Alliance Roulette Queue would somehow be a sign that the content is dead. So I stated that 20 mins are a normal queue time for me for almost every roulette.

So you're saying it's likely that it's only me and 23 other people who get varying Raids while everyone else doesn't? And you want me to proof that that's not the case? lol

People are doing ead content just fine, I hop on PF and help people all the time, so me cheesing alliance just evens that out ^^ Wonder how many of you guy who are so concerned about "new players" go out of their way to help them clear stuff without getting roulette rewards for it :P

I don't want you to prove anything because I am pretty sure you are talking out of the blue and pretending is more valid than what I said. You are also adding others to support your argument without more proof than your word. All of this while you keep ignoring the main point.

As a plus you tried to justify your attitude as is something that needed to be justified. I personally I don't care about what you or others do, banning you don't solve my problem. I want the roulette working as supposed to be and that's only SE can do.

Answering your question: I que for any content with the option to fill parties in progress activated and I always que as the rol in need. I know, I earned my ticket to FFXIV heaven! If I wasn't so modest I will list all my deeds. /s

Leveling Roulette is another can of worms. No one wants Sastasha, Copperbell, or basically anything pre 50. Why it puts me and other 3 60+ leveled players into Sastasha? This needs fixing first, imo.

Random is Random.

Edit: Anyway, I guess SE will do something with the relic if they don't want to change the roulette.