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  1. #21
    Player
    Mahoukenshi's Avatar
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    Altina Schwarzer
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    Twintania
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gelesto View Post
    By all means become a mentor but crown or not is it going to change the way you interact with other players in game? The main objective of mentors it to help new players fit into their place in whatever content it is, whether its crafting, gathering, pvp or otherwise. If you feel like you can be of help to these people taking their first steps into Eorzia then thats great, my advice would be to turn the crown off and when giving advice or help do it from a stand point where you are equals as being told what to do from someone in an apparrant form of superiority can be infuriating to some, whereas a word of advice from a fellow adventurer can be more receptive.
    Too bad that your server's NN is not good, but on Twintania's is great; obviously based on only my experience. Offering "advice" in the name of some weird superiority complexe as you stated can also happen without crown *shrugs*. But yeah, I can quite see how NN heavily varies per server and other factors.
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    Just a proud bad-skilked player

  2. #22
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    Keddera_StormMoon's Avatar
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    Tifka Stormmoon
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I earned Mentor status myself a couple weeks back. So far things don't seem much different. People who are willing to learn will continue to ask questions on their own, those who don't care will remain silent.

    Mentor chat is a crap shoot. Siren's during weekday mornings is pretty good though - other than one disagreement over AST status, people are generally asking questions and doing their best to give answers.
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  3. #23
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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Lelane Lavellan
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Honestly the biggest mistake they made with the mentor system is giving players a cool looking crown. That kind of thing attracts elitists and achievement hunters who only care about looking cool and feeling superior to others, which really defeats the whole point of the mentor system. And that in turn affects those who do honestly want to help people, because they're then counted in the same group as the jerks and assumed to be no better.
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  4. #24
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    Breezelyn's Avatar
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    Ishmael Moridel
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I used to wear the crown a lot, but the last few months I've taken it off. I'm still in the NN, but I'm what you'd probably call a "low-key mentor". I'll help people when/if they ask for in the channel. I don't really interact in the channel TOO much. I usually would private message a person if they need extra information. Because most of the time, when I try to give info, it gets buried by random stuff from others in the channel. By all means I'm not the expert and know everything; I could be giving the wrong info at times. I enjoy being a mentor to newbies and others looking for that help. I get satisfaction seeing people thanking me for the help or information I pass along. That's all I care about.

    Even so, you can't cure stupid if the person in question won't try to use advice you give. I don't bother trying to help the ones who shoot me down or ignore possible advice that could make their life easier. It's a case-by-case basis with randoms.

    Do what you do and do your best regardless. Don't let others bring you down if you want to be a good mentor.
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  5. #25
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    PyurBlue's Avatar
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 40
    If you want to be a mentor just be mindful of the limits of your knowledge and be willing to help. That's it. It doesn't matter how long you've played or what you've accomplished. When a sprout or any other player asks a question in NN (or even outside) see if you can answer it. If you can, provide advice and wait for feedback. If you can't, say nothing or tell them that you're sorry you don't know the answer and perhaps try to see if you can find it from someone or somewhere else. So long as you're willing to make use of it, the mentor system is a great way to assist other players.
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  6. #26
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Getting to mentor is hard now because you have to do every EX mode primal. I can't do the mentor roulettes anymore because I didn't do some of the SB EX primals.
    No its not hard.People are level 80 now and can zerg those ex's unsynced.Which is how most players became mentor in first place.
    And also the reason why most mentors are a burden rather than a help.
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  7. #27
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    Rhais's Avatar
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Getting to mentor is hard now because you have to do every EX mode primal. I can't do the mentor roulettes anymore because I didn't do some of the SB EX primals.
    You only need to do the EX primals to access mentor roulette, it is not a requirement for becoming a mentor.
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  8. #28
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    Gula's Avatar
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Do it. If you have a bad experience, just quit the program. No need to seek forum validation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  9. #29
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    MrKusakabe's Avatar
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    Zedek Kusakabe
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 92
    *Clears throat* *Steps in front of a microphone* Today's generation (oh god, I know!).. Scratch that.

    From what I have observed, the current generation is put down by authority. It starts with cops being treatened like crap down to our trainees at work that have the nerves to simply think they own this place after 6 months and refuse to listen.

    In LoL, when I bring up the most basic things I hear "teach me master". What you can gather from that is the supposedly bad term "Master". Or when I am using proper interpunctuations and they talk "liek dis. W8 m8 ull b ded if u dun w8 4 me" and I ask for proper English, they say "r u my english teacher??". Suppsedly bad term: "Teacher". It is most probably not what I said, but they see someone above them. Someone trying to "force" something upon them, even it might be for the better, but the current generation does not wish that. If you do try to correct them in any form, you are "toxic".

    So, "teacher" and "master" is the terms they use in a negative way. You know what will happen now? Add "Mentor" to that list. When they see a crown, you can replace the expected comments above with "Mentor". If you want to reach these people, you must lower on their level. If you ask "Hey, could you hand me the napkin, please" he will raise an eyebrow, look at you disgusted and slowly hand it over. If you say" Yo, brah, give me a napkin, bro" he will treat your normal. Avoid shoving any sign of "superiority" into their face. Streetworkers don't wear suits either.

    It is stupid as hell that you have to use this banana psychology to reach the younger people of today, but this way you can help a broader audience. This, of course, does not apply to already receptive people.
    A mentor crown might get you a stigma for these rookies and they will block any inpute until they learn it in real life the hard way that advice are not instantly a personal "diss".

    Sincerely,
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