Petition against Level Sync

[DyskoFox]

Says the guy who went on a rant (a very long one of his own) that also attacked people in a much directer way.... /fail. Do as you say, not as you do? lol.

Attacked people? If I wanted to attack I would check out they're character profile. Maybe insult them on how they haven't experienced the whole game yet like how you haven't obtained all of the nodes/camps and all that you have probably do is spend all day sitting in ul'dah. The game has so much more to offer then Ul'dah. I would look at your former posts. Maybe think hmmm, you sure do like to point fingers why not look at your self? Maybe your the problem with the community not the solution. I would maybe check out the threads they started. Like your self you haven't posted many threads. Ever think maybe you should try to contribute more original ideas to your community? Or look at your post count. Maybe imply that you should post relevant things to the topic at hand instead of just insulting another player via the forums.

As for being direct I shall treat the people on here like my dogs. Some times when they do some thing wrong you need to point it out to them. The community in game is fantastic filled with many friendly players. As for the forums I would feel like I am running a preschool program if I were a mod.

/fail? Please I in no way said I am a saint. But when it comes down to it the current thread I am posting on is what I take into account. Not a posters prior threads or comments or a different thread. I am not saying do as I say because everyone has freedom of will. I am just posting about how silly some peoples comments are. I see many people with 1k+ comments and to my opinion most of those comments are likely to be useless so why can't we have quality over quantity?

As for doing as I do as the forums dictate in order to get a point across you apparently need to be a prick to make a point so I shall gladly be one.

lol? What's so funny? How useless your post is? Because your thinking "You mad bro?" Naw, I don't have to to be mad with children just disappointed.

Have you looked in the mirror while writing your little post?

Yes, I have looked at my post I looked at it while I spent time to type it out. Clearly it was tldr for you because at the end I provided my opinion of why level sync should not be implimented.

So I've transformed into Jinko now? lol

I didn't start that thread dude. Nice try though.

My mistake editing now. I misread your name some how and mistook you for him. I am not sure how I made that mistake. I do apologize though.

I have clearly stated my opinion on level sync though thus my voice is no longer needed. So, I say good day to this thread.

[Peptaru]

There he goes again (another long rant)... I didn't realize you were so much better than everyone else, but now it's clear. my apologies for doubting you master and i'm sorry i peed on the floor, don't rub my nose in it. I'm done talkin to you. To restate an obvious point, if players use level sync appropriately it isn't broken, if the players are dumb with it then it'll seem a dumb system. Quit taking responsibility for stupidity away from players.

[Denmo]

if players use level sync appropriately it isn't broken, if the players are dumb with it then it'll seem a dumb system. Quit taking responsibility for stupidity away from players.

Solution: don't implement a system that allows for stupidity, because there will always be stupid players.

When you chose to play the game and get all your classes to 50, you knew that you'd be alienating yourself from any new players. The game never required you to get them all to 50.

Right now I'd rather the dev's focus on balancing current issues and creating new content than wasting time pandering to the rank 50 elite. Like it or not, Level Sync creates its own wealth of problems that the dev team doesn't have time to be worrying about.

[Andrien]

There he goes again (another long rant)... I didn't realize you were so much better than everyone else, but now it's clear. my apologies for doubting you master and i'm sorry i peed on the floor, don't rub my nose in it. I'm done talkin to you. To restate an obvious point, if players use level sync appropriately it isn't broken, if the players are dumb with it then it'll seem a dumb system. Quit taking responsibility for stupidity away from players.

Yup, he is subtle trolling by a form of indirect attacks, along with contradictions. Can't get worse than that. lol

[Goufunaki]

I see! Then... well, that's power-leveling, but not as extreme as it is here, the player is still doing something with the other. Here you just let the L50 claim monsters, kick him from the party, let him kill and then regroup, rinse and repeat

Actually, the level 50 doesn't even need to be in the party. As long as the lower level person attacks/claims a monster, the 50 (anyone, really) can just run in and kill it. The one who had the claim gets the benefit.

[MistressAthena]

Ok, despite all the flaming going on, I agree with the OP. Level Syncing was the key factor of destroying FFXI and all it stood for. It took time, dedication, and the slower lvling itself allowed players to truly learn their jobs. Now what happend when lvl syncing happend? ppl lvled faster, breezed through areas in no time, and when it got to them doing instances in TOUGH fights, they didnt know which end of their weapon to hold to be usefull for the party. What happend next? Square then lowered the difficulty due make up for these new players who had no idea what they were doing anymore....

Cant find a party? simple. Deal with it. Theres alot going on, there will be even more stuff to do at a later date. Or switch jobs and start lvling a new one or switch to a job of a party that is available. Pretty simple no?

They are also merging servers, so the problem of not finding a party will be minimal. Still whining? honestly, grow up is all I can say. (thumbs up)

[Exekutor]

I dont want those heavy grind time of FFXI in FFXIV. I quit FFXI because i also have a real life with girlfriend, hobbies job etc. FFXIV is a completely different game and thats fine. I dont think leveling should be the major content of an MMO, and the lvling speed is just fine in FFXIV. I also dont see a reason why one should stop lvl-sync for FFXIV. For now i dont see a reason to implement it tho, but neither do i see one to not implement it. As i said, its a feature and no one forces you to use it.

Please consider: The maximum Level of FFXIV is 50. How long did it take to get 50 in FFXI? Not very long as i can remember. Wait until they raise the cap in a few years... then we may talk again.

[KaplanHomahru]

Why are so many people equating level sync with easy...its not about making leveling easier...its about lower level people having people to party with in a world where most people are maxed. In fact, I'd still be ok with level sync if the person being synced got reduced EXP.

[ChiefCurrahee]

I am in no way upset or anything. I am just looking for frequent posters to be shining examples of the community. If people get the same impression I do of the community via the forums. Our community will never grow due to the fact that people will assume our community is full of a bunch of childish players when we actually have a mature player base.

I got the impression from many of your posts you were intentionally undermining and attacking the OP's character due to the fact he disagree'd with your opinion.

I post against level sync because I care. It is relevant to me because I play this game frequently and if a change shall be made I shall voice my opinion. If Se decides to make level sync happen. I shall live with it but the fact is I let my voice be heard.

/em steps down from soap box.

Childish like that rediculous meme in your signature? God I hate the internet sometimes.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

There just aren't even enough levels between 1 and 50 to even warrant a system like level sync. Do we need something more than Leves vs PL? Yes. Level sync maybe isn't the best solution.

How can you say that? If I want to play with my friends who are just starting the game and I have all classes capped or close to the cap and I want to play with a friend without PL them because perhaps they want to enjoy this new game you saying that doesn't warrant it? I shouldn't be able to play with them because they have no class close enough for me to play with someone? The point of level sync is the ability to sync up with your friends and be able to tackle leveling or low level content of your choosing. It will not hurt this game in any possible way and will only bolster group play. That alone gives it all the warrant it needs to be implemented.

I'm totally against level sync as well...can't even express how much I'm against it.

People who think it didn't effect FFXI really that much, hence ruined it, have no fucking clue about how it destroyed the whole immersion with the world. On Lvl 20 you knew "ok now it's time to prepare for my departure to Jeuno", On lvl 18 you knew "now I gotta get the items for the SJ quest". On 25 you knew "I need to get to Rank 3 City Missions so I can start my airship pass quest so I can go on lvling in Kazham"...all your way from 1-75 the game was "forcing" you to go into all kinds of areas all over the world and that was how it SHOULD be, then lvl sync came...

BUT, in FFXI it became neccesarry at some point to implement such a system...but only for one stupid reason, cause it was impossible to lvl solo at a reasonable pace. Still it destroyed the world, might sound exaggerating but it did.

When I started FFXI, it took me 1 year to get my first Job to 75(including subjobs etc). You wanna know how many areas I visited in that time for lvling purposes? I remember each and every single one of em.

- Lvl 1-12: Ghelsba Outpost
- Lvl 12-14: La Theine Plateu
- Lvl 14-21: Valkurm Dunes
- Lvl 21-25: Qufim Island
- Lvl 25-28: Yuhtunga Jungle
- Lvl 28-33: Yhoator Jungle
- Lvl 33-37: Garlaige Citadel, Crawlers Nest
- Lvl 37-42: Crawlers Nest, Gustav Tunnel, Eastern Altepa Desert
- Lvl 42-46: Crawlers Nest, Kuftal Tunnel, Boyahda Tree, Western Altepa Desert
- Lvl 46-50: Crawlers Nest, Boyahda Tree, Kuftal Tunnel, Lufaise Meadows
- Lvl 50-52: Crawlers Nest, Cape Terrigan, Boyahda Tree, Quicksand Caves
- Lvl 52-56: Boyahda Tree, Cape Terrigan, Quicksand Caves, Misareux Coast


...and so forth and so on...there are still dozens of other places you could lvl and I have lvld, like Ro'Maeve, Sky, Sea, not to mention the Aht URghan Areas that came later on.

You wanna know how this changed after Lvl sync?

- Lvl 1-20: Start Areas+Valkurm Dunes
- Lvl 20-75: Qufim Island

Sounds awesome, right?

Yeah, now that I think about it, THAT is what I want in FFXIV...have dozens of areas with absolute no meaning to them(even less then they already do). Would make the world feel more alive too. /sarcasm

PS: I remember all the hate threads about people complaining they want to be able to solo efficiently for lvls...well now you got that and for quite some time. Lvling solo through leves is just way too fast(compared to what to do on the way to 50) but PT lvling is faster, so now people complain they want to be able to form PTs with anyone on any lvl, through lvl sync...get your priorities straight...before demanding change over change over change...

20-75 Qufim Island? LOL. Not quite true until way later after level sync was released and it only became that way because travel in FFXI was ridiculous at time to get to any other leveling spot. I remember for a good year after level sync came out all the old areas exploded with activity at least on popular servers though areas like Bibiki bay lost their touch but then again that place lost its touch after Rangers got nerfed anyways.

I do understand your point though, but I am pretty sure FFXIV will not suffer that same fate especially we brand new zones and mob distribution. Also XIV doesn't suffer the from the lack of good mobs to kill to get exp like XI did, in XI you killed the same type of mobs from 1-75 majority of the time because that was just the best think to kill as a group while other types of mobs were too hard or just wasn't worth it. Though there are still some mobs that are easier to kill than others on this game you still find yourself fighting a ton of different mobs to level up. With that said you won't be limited by convenience of camps or convenience of mobs and that nearly fixes that problem right there.