Petition against Level Sync

[Exekutor]

Well of course i take the current game version as a basis for my reasoning. No one knows how the future will be, so any reasoning not based on the current version would be just pure speculation thus unrewarding. I see no reason to suppose a change in the xp-system in the current state. The higher you get, the higher the maximum XP-Rewards are, but with an increase of the XP you need to level up.

[mikefmc]

ok good thread. I dont get it. People want ease mode on everything this is just unreal.

here you go whiners : Easy Fantasy xiv. <- go play that. eventually if you complain enough youll just level by standing there!

[Slice]

For me the level sync isn't bad :/

[DyskoFox]

I like to petition against things that don't exist.

This is my petition against Unicorns in FFXIV NO UNICORNS! They ruin my immersion!

Voldemort will die if there is no unicorns!

LOL there isn't any Level sync!

Your childish and you haven't read a single post have you? Just leave the thread your not adding to this thread in any way that is helpful go add to your post count to make you seem like a useful member to the forums else where.

Petition: Please don't make petitions against things the devs never mentioned; if you disagree with player ideas, post your disagreements on the same thread.

If he posts his ideas in the same thread it is giving that thread more attention and thus not giving the effect that some of us are looking for. The effect that some of us are looking for is to state that there are people out there that think level sync is not needed.

Don't like Lv.Sync? Don't participate in one.

There is no substance to your comment your not helping the situation in any such way why are you posting here?

Rok I am starting to think you are against any feature that would make this game actually fun to play. I am gonna ask a serious question.

Are you for real, or just a troll pulling ppls chains on this stuff. I mean no one is THAT hardcore man?

Again this is an actual question, because I am kinda lols right now that any feature suggested that might actually make this game more user friendly you start a petition against; and any feature that is in the game from it's conception that makes things more user friendly you petition to remove.

Also Guildwars 1 was an excellent game in it's own right. Guildwars 2 will be also, they got just about everything right, ppl didnt like instancing...yeah yeah blah blah, that feature could have easily been dropped (though I felt it a good feature most of the time) but the ideas they implemented made a FUN , engagingly, excellent game.

the "levels" had nothing to do with progression. The "levels" were basically a tutorial curve. The game didn't not even begin until you passed level 20 (which should have been a couple days if about a week) THEN you set about collecting your skills and gear and acheivements. Which was a VERY challenging task. Filled with going to excellent dungeon and map layout, very fun missions and all sorts of good good content.

If SE wanted to use a template for alot of "how to make a good multiplier experience" , they should have opened Guildwar's notes and copied them.

Sure it had some lame parts too, but there was A LOT of good successful ideas.

You do realise you're "petitioning" against something that's not in the game?

Come on man.

Don't like someone's idea? I got it just attack them! Just attack them! When innovation is happening at your work and you don't agree with it do you resort to acting like a child? Please just because nobody know's who you are and you can hide behind your little avatar icon you have no need to act like a child. You sir need to put on your big boy pants.

Like this post If you disagree with the op >_>

Wow way to make your self look like a useful poster on the forums. Hmmm, how can I get those awesome medals under peoples names? Hmmmm, oh yea that is right! Post on a touchy subject that people argue about saying the opposite thing and tell people to click "like" right on!

1 - 50 is already easy, IF you can find parties.

BS! They've made this game so you can solo most things and leveling is one of them that you can quickly do. People just look for parties because they're the path of least resistance and cannot motivate them selfs to grind unless they're a party. /cry solo so hard... Before leveling became easy I solo'd 3 jobs to 50 just on leves because I didn't know people on my server. After it became easy to level people were like "omg need to PL it's so fast." They made PLing an annoyance. "Omg need to PL to 40 then grind party 40 to 50!"

I think they should go a step further and roll him back to the beta version of the game while we move on. Then he can experience the game in all of its tedious glory.

Attacking the OP again for stating his opinion don't you just feel like a big boy!

I swear you purposely post the opposite of what 90% of the population are in favor for. Is this an attention thing? I don't get it.

POST YOUR M#$%A F&^KING PROOF OR GTFO! F&@KING TROLLS I SWEAR! This baseless bulls&%t makes our forums a crappier place. I swear if someone jumps on our forums and actually reads 1/2 that stuff that gets posted in response to another post that someone disagree's with then they wouldn't bother with this game. You people give this game more bad rep then it has because of the bad release.

Rokien,

Another post attacking the Op. How constructive...

Are these cookies full of meat mew!?

A post by Dragon or Antanias that is neither relevant to the thread or constructive in any way.

TL;DR version: Options are good, and in honest truth people will play how they play regardless of your opinion, you can't control every aspect, nor should every aspect of this game cater to one kind of player... Level-sync offers benefits that are needed to encourage party play, and aspects that keep people social where they might otherwise spend all their time soloing or being power leveled and miss out on the journey.

I took the tldr part of this post. Can more of you people post like this constructive person I don't agree with her but I wont attack her for stating her opinion.

Insert random FFXI quote here...

This isn't FFXI. As an educated person who can read I notice this is FFXIV <--- there's a "V" on the end. That implies that this game is the 14th version of Final Fantasy not the 11th version. Yes, I know you played XI it is not relevant. I didn't play XI which isn't relevant either. They didn't copy paste 11's level sync in here and they probably know it would not be a popular thing to do. This is also not Guildwars so that game in no way applies here either. Why? Because this is 14 not 11 or Guild Wars.

Ok, I am sick of going through this thread and looking at how childish and useless 1/2 the posts are in his thread. So, I will now state my opinion and probably get flammed for it but what ever. Just read my siggy quote and recognize your part of the problem.

Ps: I got that quote after I realized how you people were on these forums.

^ felt the need that that should be in a "Ps" kinda situation. But yes to my opinion.

I think that level sync should not be applied to the game. Why you might ask? Because it would change the way the game is played. Yea, we know it will make it so we can play with anyone of any level. No, it'll do more then just that. What will the point of different level mobs be? Those sight based Ogre's in Mor Dhona that you need to walk around. Psh why walk around them? Level sync is applied I'll just walk on through and fight that sucker he'll be nerf'd so he wont hit me as hard, just like I am nerf'd so I wont hit a star marmot as hard. The silly moonlet event that happened last summer. How annoying would that be to do if you had to fight a r50ish monster every time and had to break out a full combo, potentionally die, etc. just for a useless event item. Why even participate in the event? Questing, why even have a level requirement all monsters are level sync'd so SE might as well make all quests available to us. Why even have monsters be sight or sound based? With level sync you might as well just fight your way to all of the nodes/camps. Your fighting the BW boss NM why not bring a lvl 13? There's level sync he wants to go and he hasn't beaten the nm yet. Why not? Hmmm, maybe because he's r 13... we couldn't find an 8th person so yea we totally need a r13 at BW boss NM.

Yes, I understand that all of this might not happen due to the fact that they could do level sync differently but if they don't then this is exactly what will happen.

This game is not Guild Wars 1. In Guild Wars 1 level's were a joke. It was all about acquiring skills and using them in the correct order, understanding your character role, and the damage between 1 and 20 wasn't too huge of a difference when you were fighting monsters at the same level.

With how quick leveling is even solo. I find it to be a joke that people feel the need for there to be level sync. With server mergers happening soon and many worlds seeing an influx of players. It is a joke again you don't know how hard or easy it will be to find a party with more players around. So, why not wait and see before you complain.

The fact is level sync changes too much of the game. If they change the game that much they might as well just push back the deadline and start over hauling it again. You really want to wait till 2.0 if it's March 2013? I am against level sync because I feel it changes too much of the game. That is how I feel that is why I support threads like this. That is why I am posting here. You complain about him posting his anti level sync thread saying he should of just kept it in your level sync threads. Which one? There are several. Why don't you keep 1 level sync thread relevant instead of posting one after another.

[Colino]

Don't like someone's idea? I got it just attack them! Just attack them! When innovation is happening at your work and you don't agree with it do you resort to acting like a child? Please just because nobody know's who you are and you can hide behind your little avatar icon you have no need to act like a child. You sir need to put on your big boy pants.

Err... I didn't attack anybody. I just mentioned how the thread title is a bit odd since you can't really "petition" against something that hasn't been implemented (in fact they haven't even hinted at implementing it).

I'm not against level sync at all, and I noted so just a couple of posts later. (I really don't care. The more options the better honestly)

Take a chill pill.

[Rokien]

Err... I didn't attack anybody. I just mentioned how the thread title is a bit odd since you can't really "petition" against something that hasn't been implemented (in fact they haven't even hinted at implementing it).

I'm not against level sync at all, and I noted so just a couple of posts later. (I really don't care. The more options the better honestly)

Take a chill pill.

It's a fact that they did mention it, I'm not going to look for it, you will have to take my word.

Also, everyone making personal attacks on my character, really?

Ya you could skip level sync parties in FFXI, though, it was hard, because 90% of the parties were level sync parties.

Now, lets add a level sync to our group and add a PL..... nuff said. Note: you wont be-able to add/drop but he can still kill from the outside. Which could end up being faster than a Nat party.

I can understand where you pro-sync people are coming from. "Play with friend, help people out, blah blah blah"
Though, if you wanted to do all that, you shouldn't have got all levels 50(like me, I'm thinking of the future). There are other ways to help new people out as well. Crafting them gear, giving some gil, inviting em to a linkshell and try and help him form a party within your linkshell, pling(which would take less of your time, I know you guys HATE wasting time on stuff).
You guys do know that you don't have to have 8 people in your party to party right? You easily get 5 or less and roll out. I've done it many times and its fine if you do it right, still faster than soloing.

As I said in OP, 2.0=more people=lower level people=people to party with at lower levels(which really takes 2 mins to level)=no need for level sync.
Also, if you are on my server, you have no right to be like "NOBODY TO PT WIT ; ;" I have found people easy, parties are not hard to come by, maybe just a little bit of your time.
if they added a level cap to Instanced raids, you could party, level up, have fun with your lower level friends.~ COMPROMISE~

[DyskoFox]

Err... I didn't attack anybody. I just mentioned how the thread title is a bit odd since you can't really "petition" against something that hasn't been implemented (in fact they haven't even hinted at implementing it).

I'm not against level sync at all, and I noted so just a couple of posts later. (I really don't care. The more options the better honestly)

Take a chill pill.

I am in no way upset or anything. I am just looking for frequent posters to be shining examples of the community. If people get the same impression I do of the community via the forums. Our community will never grow due to the fact that people will assume our community is full of a bunch of childish players when we actually have a mature player base.

I got the impression from many of your posts you were intentionally undermining and attacking the OP's character due to the fact he disagree'd with your opinion.

I post against level sync because I care. It is relevant to me because I play this game frequently and if a change shall be made I shall voice my opinion. If Se decides to make level sync happen. I shall live with it but the fact is I let my voice be heard.

/em steps down from soap box.

[Dragon]

There is no substance to your comment your not helping the situation in any such way why are you posting here?

Have you looked in the mirror while writing your little post?

I can understand where you pro-sync people are coming from. "Play with friend, help people out, blah blah blah"
Though, if you wanted to do all that, you shouldn't have got all levels 50(like me, I'm thinking of the future). There are other ways to help new people out as well. Crafting them gear, giving some gil, inviting em to a linkshell and try and help him form a party within your linkshell, pling(which would take less of your time, I know you guys HATE wasting time on stuff).
You guys do know that you don't have to have 8 people in your party to party right? You easily get 5 or less and roll out. I've done it many times and its fine if you do it right, still faster than soloing.

Mostly everything you claimed as ways to help others are nothing more than hand-outs, the only exception would be helping him form a party in a linkshell since that still requires some effort on the newb's part.

[Rokien]

Have you looked in the mirror while writing your little post?



Mostly everything you claimed as ways to help others are nothing more than hand-outs, the only exception would be helping him form a party in a linkshell since that still requires some effort on the newb's part.

When I first joined ffxi, someone "handed" me 10k, that helped me out sooooo much! I was like best friends with that guy for a long time until he quit the game. That's all the gil he ever gave me as well.

[Antanias]

stuff

I didn't post that to rack up medals, it's a response to the op's myriad threads asking SE to essentially undo everything that has been done in recent patches. If you go back and read his threads, you'll see that for yourself.